Why do you think the RDA lost the final battle?

[SecOps]

Because, (and I hate explaining this over and over again...) The rda are ****ing mercs. They are not a military force. They have secondhand surplus equipment purchased by the company, not military grade hardware. Now, if a real military force actually attempted to take Pandora, it would be a different story, but civilian grade weapons and armaments are not going to cut it.

Secondly, it is actually illegal to transport WMD's off earth. Its a law in effect today among the space faring nations.



Ciaphas, I counter with the deathstar argument. It makes absolutely no ****ing sense, but its there.

The RDA employ Security Forces (SECOPS) and they are a Military force. The RDA can purchase the most expensive equipment on the market that the national armed forces won't spend money on. A lot of the lore about Infantry weapons and equipment explains that the armies on Earth don't use them but private sectors that can afford to, do. Nothing second-hand and no cutting costs with the RDA.

So there are no civilian grade weapons or armaments, but actual RDA access to the best military and private sector equipment on the market. Keep in mind like any Private Contractor all 'security contractors/mercs' would have previous Military experience.

The real issue here is if the UN did not restrict the RDA to project large ammounts of military power in space, they would of won the battle. Turning civilian shuttles into makeshift bombers is what doesn't cut it.

[Palulukan_Taronyu]

The real issue here is if the UN did not restrict the RDA to project large ammounts of military power in space, they would of won the battle. Turning civilian shuttles into makeshift bombers is what doesn't cut it.

They have forbidden the RDA from having to much power. The RDA where using late 21st century vehicles and weapons. There are plenty of other better technology that is available and if the RDA makes a appearance back onto Pandora which I am betting that they are. They will bring it to bare on the Na'vi.

[Aihwa]

Yeah, the shuttle bomber.



That hurt my inner tactician. As did the lack of fixed wing aircraft. Helo's are very vulnerable to the native avian species, a fixed wing fighter/bomber, is not.

[Palulukan_Taronyu]

Well the RDA was limited on the ammount of equipment they could bring with them with each visit to Pandora. Fixed wing Aircraft are heavy and require more space then helicoptors. they are also harder to maintain and require more space.

[Aihwa]

Well the RDA was limited on the ammount of equipment they could bring with them with each visit to Pandora. Fixed wing Aircraft are heavy and require more space then helicoptors. they are also harder to maintain and require more space.

And they lost dozens of choppers. I think it would have been less expensive to put a flight of fighters on an ISV and ship them over.

[SecOps]

And they lost dozens of choppers. I think it would have been less expensive to put a flight of fighters on an ISV and ship them over.

Actually to cut costs the RDA constructed the gunships right there on Pandora as cheap alternatives, no armed forces actually continue to put them to use back home.

A group of air superiority fighters would of been a great sight to see.

[Imperius Dictatio]

They have forbidden the RDA from having to much power. The RDA where using late 21st century vehicles and weapons. There are plenty of other better technology that is available and if the RDA makes a appearance back onto Pandora which I am betting that they are. They will bring it to bare on the Na'vi.

The limit was only on WMD's and military power in space.
Which in this case might mean 'Dont arm your Starships.'
Their would have been no limit on military gear they could have brought along.
Or simply make on world. (They have an Automated Factory that runs on blueprints. As long as they have the materials they could build just about anything they wanted.)

[Holea]

Yep very cheesy. LOL And Eywa's timing reallllly sucked. All those Navi and their direhoreses had to die before "Eywa" intervened... If the Navi had been behind those charging armored hammerhead rhinos it would have been a rout. But they still had those choppers armed with missles and napalm to contend with so that might have broken the charge as well. Also, Eywa was not a deity but a planetwide neural network running through the forrests at least. How it "communicated" to the plains people without trees don't know. Must have communicated with the animals via telepathy. shrug.

Everything in the move set up the bad, nasty humans against the noble natives. There is some truth to that. Every scene of the planet was spectactular. Yep, that's a "real" world and the Navi walk through gardenlike forrests, etc.
Not taking anything away from how spectactular it was visually. But I expected to see some Disney fairies flitter about any time. It's a FANTASY folks. It was completely contrived story with the nasty corporation getting its butt kicked, along with a lot of deaths. Film had a huge anti-corporate, environmental message and not very subtle one at that. It was also a film about rights. What gave humans the "right" to mine a planet with an intelligence species?? What would a different species have done to or with Pandora had they discovered them. You think they would have cared about the Navi's rights? But sadly or not the way of nature is that the strong prey on the weak and only the strongest survive. How long, how many centuries had the Navi lived their primitive lifestyle. No technology whatsoever except for master bow makers??? They were in a never ending loop it appeared. The goodness or badness of it I am not commenting on. Only the fact that on this planet the tribal life never developed beyond what we saw. The "perfect" primitive Eden...

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

Eywa could not interfere or take sides in the conflict,She could only maintain the balance of life. unfortunately,a large number of Na'vi had to go to Eywa before She could intervene by sending out the various animals of Pandora. it is clearly put out in the film about this,and there is a message about technology versus nature,thus the battle between the tech-heavy intruders and natives who coexist with nature. i have to admit,i was ALWAYS on the side of the Na'vi,as i despise the spread of mankind,consuming and destroying everything around them. to me,Colonel Coffeecup IS mankind,we take what we want,nature and natives be damned! yeah,i like a lot of the subtle messages of Avatar,and hope that JC continues this in the sequels.

[Imperius Dictatio]

Subtle? You call Camerons hamfisted attempts at blatant emotional manipulation subtle?