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why no news reports from Pandora?

This is a discussion thread about: why no news reports from Pandora? inside the Plot & Scripts forum, part of the AVATAR Movie Forums category. I'm sat here with the 24-hour news on, you know, Libyan REGIME CHANGE operation with oodles of disinfo, lies and ...

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    I'm sat here with the 24-hour news on, you know, Libyan REGIME CHANGE operation with oodles of disinfo, lies and misdirection.



    And I'm thinking, why weren't the RDA guys watching (or at least sharing comments on) all the latest news from earth or at least watching all the latest propaganda that they'd be sending to earth? You know, the propaganda stuff they're supplying rebellion footage for?

    And please don't use the DISTANCE BETWEEN PANDORA AND EARTH argument just for now, this is assuming that there will be 'some sort of contact' with central command or these inter-galactic gold-rush missions will be DOOMED TO FAILURE.

    Wonder what the word on Earth would be about the PANDORAN DIPLOMATIC MISSION turned into a regime change military insurgence? "We have always been at war with Eurasia?" ya know?

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    The only contact was through quantnum entanglement. They have two inverted particles, when they change the state of one, the other, no matter how far, changes as well. That means you can send information one bit at a time. Hideously low bandwidth, text documents would have enough difficulty getting through, much less HD video.


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    Even at the highest telecommunication speeds currently available and even futuristically speaking sending simple signals a distance that takes futuristic ships six years to travel making a twelve year round trip is quite a long ways and has a certain level of difficulty. A simple text message would take at least a year to make it there and that’s with space stations along the route to relay the information. Perhaps the freight ships serve as the relay stations as there are many of them in between Earth and Pandora about six months apart from what I understand. That’s the only way you would be able to do it because a signal could easily be disrupted by subspace interference if it was shot straight from Earth to Pandora, which would take incalculable precision because if you were off by a hair here on Earth by the time it got there the signal could be sent light years off target. The primary issue would be subspace interference. We experience this type of interference just sending signals to Mars, which is only six to nine months away from Earth. It takes thirty minutes to an hour for information to get to Mars and it takes an additional fifteen to thirty minutes to receive confirmation that the signal was acquired so sending a signal or message six years through space would be quite the challenge. Other than that the only way people on Earth would hear news about Pandora or see photos and videos would be on the returning freight ships. You never know it might be that information on Earth could still be kept from the public like it is now.

    As for signal delay I just keep getting this amusing mental image of the people on Pandora receiving a message twelve years after the fact… “ABORT MISSION!” lol

    With all that said; for hardcore fans I'm sure if they were on Pandora they wouldn't want to watch the news from Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aihwa View Post
    The only contact was through quantnum entanglement. They have two inverted particles, when they change the state of one, the other, no matter how far, changes as well. That means you can send information one bit at a time. Hideously low bandwidth, text documents would have enough difficulty getting through, much less HD video.
    Of course that's explained in the Guidebook, an essetenial "manual guide to Pandora" as it where. I would've expected that people would've read this by now (then again, my libary doesn't have a copy of that book, nor does it have the making of which I don't have at home).
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    I don't even own a copy and I know that. :P


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    Quote Originally Posted by HufweMakto View Post
    I would've expected that people would've read this by now (then again, my libary doesn't have a copy of that book, nor does it have the making of which I don't have at home).
    There’s a long time in between one film to the next and if people go and get every little piece of information about Avatar in the first couple of days after it comes out then it makes the waiting period to the next movie seem much longer. There are things I haven’t read like the survival guide so I still have the luxury of learning new things about Avatar. It keeps the excitement going over a period of time instead of burning it out quickly. I’m sure there are others like me out there who take it as it comes. Then there’s the fact that a lot of us have jobs, families, and other responsibilities. I’m unable to be as invested in Avatar as other people on this site. Due to my job I’ll probably be unable to ever see Avatar in cinema.

    So whenever I answer questions on this site I answer them with information already in my head based off of facts that have already been established. Not from information out of a fictional survival guide that may make something sound more possible than it really is.

    I live in a “town” with like 50 people... we don’t have a stop sign, stop lights, a gas station, any store, post office or anything. So no we don’t have a library or high speed internet for that matter. :-\

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    2152 looks like such a horrible time. the over-crowding looked mind-boggling, and the freakin bengal tigers are extinct....i almost wanted to punch my tv when i saw that scene. Take our trees, take our green, but don't take our animals.
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    well if I was on Pandora i wouldn't care about what's going on back on Earth, although part of the science division's job does concern Earth (finding new ways to restore the natural world through things on Pandora, mainly plants) I still wouldn't care too much. By coming to Pandora you've pretty much made a decision to give up your life on Earth even if you intend on returning, everyone and everything you knew will be 10-12 years older which I'm sure would **** your life up
    There are many dangers on Pandora, and one of the subtlest is that you may come to love it too much.


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    they had QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT communication devices in Avatar?
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    I have a rather ambivilent view of the Survival Guide. While it has some cool stuff, I don't really consider it canon. The quantum entanglement communication device is never mentioned in the movie and I don't consider it as a part of the Avatar Universe until it does appear in the next movie. So, I'm assuming that it takes over four years for messages to get from Earth to Pandora (or vice-versa). That being the case, most 'news' is going to be pretty irrelevant by the time it arrives. Personal messages will be another matter, of course. I would imagine that the RDA would select people to go to Pandora who had the fewest personal ties, but there would surely still be some. The people there are going to be far more interested in news from family and friends than in the currents events abck on Earth.

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