To all "Pocahontas in Space" abusers

[neytirifanboy]

Personally, I wasn't thinking about any other movie when I was watching Avatar. I was too busy being entranced by the beauty and wonder of Pandora.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

The point is no other movie has ever made me join a forum or watch it until smoke came out of my DVD player.

THIS THIS THIS...and i too have joined this movie forum which is immensely entertaining,informative,and full of fans who don't judge me for being really out in the far reaches of the universe in my praise and love of this film. thanks,guys and gals. and yes,i too,broke my dvd player between playing Avatar and Matrix way more than recommended by the manufacturer,lol. i have since remedied my problem,by getting a PS3 blu-ray player,and Avatar and Matrix br discs,very nice.

[Neytiri te Chaka Mo'at'it]

As many others have said in this thread, Avatar may re-tell an old story, but it tells it better than anyone has ever told it before, by the way, did Pocahontas have a fan base of probably well over 1 billion people at only three weeks old, I didn't think so, not only that, but did pochahontas include ground-breaking special effects and live-action CGI, I didn't think so, did pocahontas manage to include nudity without the censors picking it up, I didn't think so, did Pocahontas manage to capture the attention of the Chinese government so much that they re-named a mountain range, I didn't think so, did Pocahontas spark people to dress up like characters to mount protests, I didn't think so, I could keep going all day, also avatar doesn't take place in space, yes it is off earth, but it isn't in space, it is on a moon of a gas giant.

[Neytiri te Chaka Mo'at'it]

Eternal Enigma; I love your comparison of paying taxes to having sex, it is very funny.

[Neytiri te Chaka Mo'at'it]

As Eminem says in his song "Not Afraid", all the haters can make like bees without their stingers and drop dead, I thought that was very apt for this thread.

[Sothis]

Well, everything I was going to say on this topic has already been said with great eloquence by others. I'm just going to throw another analogy into the pot. I took a business class on entrepreneurship once, and we had this great speaker one day. He said you don't want to be the first company to create a new product, service, or concept. You want to be the first to get it right.

i.e. You don't want to be the people who made Myspace or Friendster. You want to be the people who made Facebook.
You don't want to be the people who made the Listen Up player or the MPMan. You want to be the people who made the iPod.

By analogy: if I had to choose, I wouldn't want to see Pocahontas, Ferngully, Dances with Wolves, etc. I'd want to see Avatar. Not because it is the first, but because it is the best.

[Kewong Frrtu]

Back when Avatar was "the" movie everyone was talking about, I recall someone jokingly paralleling Avatar with Fast and the Furious through the same elemental distillation that many of Avatar's detractors treated the film to.

In all seriousness however, when I can start fabricating titles like "Dances with the Last Princess Pocahontas" and can rattle off five titles from multiple decades that follow a similar narrative blueprint, I think the threshold between what we deem "unoriginal" in a derogatory sense and what we call a "classic" has been crossed.

[Holea]

Very good post Code_2008! Everyone has an opinion. As someome so eloquently once said, "Opinions are like rectums. Everybody has ONE" People see movies through the eyes of their experiences, age and whether they like Sci Fi or not. To blast someone as a "hater" is juvenile just because they did not faint and fall on their knees to worship the movie. It was a great entertaining movie. What made it so great however, were the special effects, not the storyline or characters. No the "storyline and/or plot" is NOT original unless you are 7 years old. I suspect many visitors to these forums are extremely young which is great because I was once too.

Cameron went overboard in the scenery. LOL. Was there a scene in the movie without a spectacular waterfall? (just kidding) That was the point of the movie to suck you into a visual dreamworld and Avatar was stunning in that aspect. Worth the price for that alone. I really enjoyed the movie except for the ludicrious leaps in volume it constantly made. A peaceful 50 decibels one second and 2,000 the next. The movie did not need that overkill LOL

So people ease off the "hater" thing. That's pure crap When people constantly have to fall back on blowing people off as haters, they're the one with the problem. AVATAR had brilliantly detailed and stunning special effects. The best I have seen and I've seen a lot. (unfortunately). Some of us like the movie but it is not a religious experience for us. BTY, did anybody see any fish in the movie? Peace folks. I hope he does make a sequel!!!

[Neytiri te Chaka Mo'at'it]

Holea, some of the stuff I agree with, such as the fact that everyone has their own opinions, however as many people have said, the plot may not be original, but really think about it, how many other movies do you know that were entirely original, most likely, none, and also many of us are not extremly young, I would say, most of us are high school and up, I have only a couple years left of high school, so I'm starting to think about college, and what I'm going for, so yeah, I found it kind of insulting that you called most of us "little kids", cause I sure as hell am not little. So could you lighten up a little, I saw pocahontas myself, and although they do have similarities, I found that Avatar was an anti-matter bomb and pocahontas was a needle, just to compare my views on which movie was better. So yeah, just think about how many movies you know that are completely unique.

[Neytiri te Chaka Mo'at'it]

Also, it doesn't matter how close the plots are, what matters is how they are presented.