PANDORA The Perfect World? NOT REALLY

[Holea]

Everyone agree Cameron created an incredible fantasy world on film. No question.

But what about the Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

Beauty beyond belief. A Very Primitive world with primitive tribes throughout. Peaceful Pandora. Not really. Why are there warriors? The tale mentions a time of great sorrow and a Turok Mak Toe brought them all together. But they still had warriors. Who did they fight with? Dare we say other tribes. But that would be too human.

The Navi all appeared to live inside a huge tree. They had and used fire, presumably to cook with? Since they always were paractically naked we can assume the climate was always balmy to warm so no need for heat. They sleep in hammocks high in the tree, presumeably to remain safe from ground predators of the night.

The unspoken picture here is there is no disease, no cancer, no hunger, no vice, no worries. Just continually walking and leaping blissfully through the forrests. The Navi are hunters. There is no mention or alluding to their growing anything. That means to all the Vegies in the world they ate meat.

The jungles were filled with predators large and small and in packs. The beauty of this fantasy world is nearly overwhelming. A sensory overload and intended to be. Is our idea of the perfect world one in which we live in caves, trees, hunt with bows and squat by the community fire chewing on meat?? Each day the most vital thing is to find food and Not become Food.

For many who are suffering from depression after seeing this movie you need to consider these things. We all watched a "movie" with make believe beauty that left us gasping. Cameron made it a little to fantasy perfect IMO. Incredible movie, no question. But no race, species of animal or instect lives in utopia. They live, they die, they dine on each other and they struggle to survive. Please don't jump my case. I am merely stating there is more than one side to a fantasy world such as Pandora.

[Wanderlust]

It is a much more controlled environment because of Eywa.

They eat meat and forage for things like fruits.

[Tsyal Makto]

That actually sounds like a plus.

An adrenaline junkies paradise.

[The Silver Stag]

I actually love the idea of having to hunt for my food and struggle for survival, would make me feel as though I earned it and would keep me strong. No disease, stunning forests and a community that cares about you. As for getting attacked by predators, I'd much rather be killed for my meat by a creature just wanting to survive than stabbed to death for the money in my wallet.

[Anna23]

I actually love the idea of having to hunt for my food and struggle for survival, would make me feel as though I earned it and would keep me strong. No disease, stunning forests and a community that cares about you. As for getting attacked by predators, I'd much rather be killed for my meat by a creature just wanting to survive than stabbed to death for the money in my wallet.

^This

[Holea]

If you feel your only two choice are for dying are to be eaten by a predator or killed for your wallet then you've got real limited options in your life. I hope that is not the case.

I don't know. Hunt, eat, sleep. Hunt, eat, sleep. That is surviving but more to life than surviving we hope. The movie has made it look glamorous because THAT is What Movied try to do. The reality even in this "perfect" world would not be quite so appealing.

But who would not love to walk through that jungle at night. I mean supposing we'd survive for more than five minutes. LOL

[Xiraxis]

I agree with Holea. You cant forget, that Eywa is 'Improved nature' and nature, like it or not, is cruel... very cruel... nature always patronize strong - so evolution function at this system... if nature is not cruel... all life was stayed in unicellular organism... and i think... i know, that Eywa is cruel too... She saves balance, but no individuals, or one species. If come stronger species (evolved with natural selection), stronger species push back weaker species and Eywa does nothing... only, if stronger species become dangerous for balance, she step in. Live in Pandora can be very hard... and very short... as well as for Na'vi

No Disease here?... Yep... here no allergy, no diabetes, no other civilization diseases... yes, this true... but flues, dieses icurred parasites or dieses from wond - infection... Na'vi, who will get sepsis is <incored word > I believe, that Na'vi knows how cure this dieses, but this no significant, that here no diseases...

Cameron show us idilic world... form of utopia... but, that he dont show us problems, not significant, thata here no problems...

P.S. Sry for my horible english, i hope, that you understand me...

[Wanderlust]

I agree with Holea. You cant forget, that Eywa is 'Improved nature' and nature, like it or not, is cruel... very cruel... nature always patronize strong - so evolution function at this system... if nature is not cruel... all life was stayed in unicellular organism... and i think... i know, that Eywa is cruel too... She saves balance, but no individuals, or one species. If come stronger species (evolved with natural selection), stronger species push back weaker species and Eywa does nothing... only, if stronger species become dangerous for balance, she step in. Live in Pandora can be very hard... and very short... as well as for Na'vi

No Disease here?... Yep... here no allergy, no diabetes, no other civilization diseases... yes, this true... but flues, dieses icurred parasites or dieses from wond - infection... Na'vi, who will get sepsis is <incored word > I believe, that Na'vi knows how cure this dieses, but this no significant, that here no diseases...

Cameron show us idilic world... form of utopia... but, that he dont show us problems, not significant, thata here no problems...

P.S. Sry for my horible english, i hope, that you understand me...

Hey friend =D

[Tsyal Makto]

If you feel your only two choice are for dying are to be eaten by a predator or killed for your wallet then you've got real limited options in your life. I hope that is not the case.

I don't know. Hunt, eat, sleep. Hunt, eat, sleep. That is surviving but more to life than surviving we hope. The movie has made it look glamorous because THAT is What Movied try to do. The reality even in this "perfect" world would not be quite so appealing.

But who would not love to walk through that jungle at night. I mean supposing we'd survive for more than five minutes. LOL

*sigh* Still so many misconceptions about tribal society.

I'd say it's pretty safe to say what we're doing today would be considered surviving, as well, just replace the word "hunt" with "work." In fact we're working harder than tribal people ever did, 8+ hours a day compared to 2. Not to mention how many more diseases are prevelant today, both physical and mental, in civil society, compared to tribal society. Sure, our lives have some high points, such as vacations*, but in general, people's standards of living day-to-day have gotten lower. Being a wage slave to economics is no improvement to being a "slave" to nature. Hell, I'd say economics is even more cut-throat than nature.

If you think about it, there's still just as many ways to die in the modern world as there are in tribal society, if not more. The biggest COD back in the day was some form of trauma (falling out of a tree, animal attack, etc), and the occasional infection. Let's see, today we have...
- Car accidents
- Homicide
- Suicide (pretty much unheard of among tribal people)
- Cancer, diabetes, and other modern diseases
- Still many old-world diseases**
- Poisoning
- Malnutrition**

If you've got the right knowledge, then you've probably got a better chance in the wild than in the modern world.

* - Though, ironically, much of what people do today for leisure was once work to tribal people. Hunting, fishing, etc.
** - NO, those pictures of starving, diseased children in tribal Africa and the like are not true reflections of tribal living, stop kidding yourself if you think they are. They're the result of the west's imperialist greed in the 19th century which destroyed much of the land where people used to thrive living off the land in tribal society.

[The Silver Stag]

*sigh* Still so many misconceptions about tribal society.

I'd say it's pretty safe to say what we're doing today would be considered surviving, as well, just replace the word "hunt" with "work." In fact we're working harder than tribal people ever did, 8+ hours a day compared to 2. Not to mention how many more diseases are prevelant today, both physical and mental, in civil society, compared to tribal society. Sure, our lives have some high points, such as vacations*, but in general, people's standards of living day-to-day have gotten lower. Being a wage slave to economics is no improvement to being a "slave" to nature. Hell, I'd say economics is even more cut-throat than nature.

If you think about it, there's still just as many ways to die in the modern world as there are in tribal society, if not more. The biggest COD back in the day was some form of trauma (falling out of a tree, animal attack, etc), and the occasional infection. Let's see, today we have...
- Car accidents
- Homicide
- Suicide (pretty much unheard of among tribal people)
- Cancer, diabetes, and other modern diseases
- Still many old-world diseases**
- Poisoning
- Malnutrition**

If you've got the right knowledge, then you've probably got a better chance in the wild than in the modern world.

* - Though, ironically, much of what people do today for leisure was once work to tribal people. Hunting, fishing, etc.
** - NO, those pictures of starving, diseased children in tribal Africa and the like are not true reflections of tribal living, stop kidding yourself if you think they are. They're the result of the west's imperialist greed in the 19th century which destroyed much of the land where people used to thrive living off the land in tribal society.

Tsyal Makto said what I wanted to say but probably did it better lol. Many people seem to think the lives of tribal people are short, filled with disease and anguish and generally pretty miserable. This idea seems cemented in civilization but it is just not the case. I'd leave everything I have and know to live like the Na'vi live and be part of a community that thinks the same as I do