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Pandora... Maybe not so peacefull?

This is a discussion thread about: Pandora... Maybe not so peacefull? inside the Pandora forum, part of the AVATAR Movie Forums category. Originally Posted by DeMouse What you mean like Smallpox? Polio? Bubonic Plague? Malaria? assuming the na'vi don't have real medicin. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeMouse View Post
    What you mean like Smallpox? Polio? Bubonic Plague? Malaria?
    assuming the na'vi don't have real medicin. (like we do) only healing plants. I'm sure that they are allot better resist to this kind of diseases. (not immune only better resist.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanjwale View Post
    assuming the na'vi don't have real medicin. (like we do) only healing plants. I'm sure that they are allot better resist to this kind of diseases. (not immune only better resist.)
    This may be the solution to this problem. Having an environment without bacteria/viruses that can cause disease seems impossible, but if we say that Na'vi resistance to disease is much higher than mans so that most diseases are reduced to minor effects (minor flu or the common cold); then we have a solution that is reasombly realistic. I also remember a line about Na'vi that live in the swamps evolving to deal with the extra diseases there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ja'k Dawsiin View Post
    i think JC has something to say to you....

    The only *** I'll kiss is my alliance executor and my CEO. A world with no bacterial or viral infections makes no sense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Theorist View Post
    I mean there don't have to be diseases. Look at FAIDs vs AIDs. Scientists found out that a rather large percent of lions actually have FAIDs but they survive, because FAIDs isn't dangerous too them, unlike AIDs to a human. Technically speaking, FAIDs is then more successful than AIDs because it doesn't kill its host, so it can propagate longer.

    disˇease
       [dih-zeez] Show IPA noun, verb, -eased, -easˇing.
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    1.
    a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment.
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    any abnormal condition in a plant that interferes with its vital physiological processes, caused by pathogenic microorganisms, parasites, unfavorable environmental, genetic, or nutritional factors, etc.
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    any harmful, depraved, or morbid condition, as of the mind or society: His fascination with executions is a disease.
    4.
    decomposition of a material under special circumstances: tin disease.

    So, if there are 'diseases' on Pandora similar to FAIDs, and they just coexist with other organisms, and reproduce and spread without harming their hosts, then they technically aren't diseases, cause it's not harming them.

    It's a long shot, but given that Alpha Centauri is older than our solar system, and that Pandora does seem more balanced naturally, (to have reached a more stable equilibrium) it's possible there are no diseases, because all of them have become non-harmful.
    there's even a group of prostitues in Kenya that have developed immunity to AIDS and they have passed this genetic trait onto their kids so...


    (although they have become infected, squashing hopes to find a prevention for aids -_-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/619316.stm

    The only *** I'll kiss is my alliance executor and my CEO. A world with no bacterial or viral infections makes no sense.
    well to me, you really don't seem to enjoy the world of Avatar and why you stick around the forums makes no sense to me but i don't have a problem with it :P as long as you don't troll
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    Why are plants with antibacterial properties so difficult to imagine? They cut off microorganisms before they have a chance to spread. At least that's how it worked in 880 IIRC.

    Or everything could have the super-strong immune systems you guys mentioned.

    I'm personally holding out until JC releases the next canon piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto View Post
    Why are plants with antibacterial properties so difficult to imagine? They cut off microorganisms before they have a chance to spread. At least that's how it worked in 880 IIRC.

    Or everything could have the super-strong immune systems you guys mentioned.

    I'm personally holding out until JC releases the next canon piece.
    you mean the novel, which is never coming out :|
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    Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsyal Makto View Post
    Why are plants with antibacterial properties so difficult to imagine?
    Why would a plant evolve into a disease killer? Disease resistant maybe, but then said disease would mutate and evolve into something more potent to get through its increased defenses. No plant would ever evolve to combat illness that other species might suffer, it just doesn't work that way. Again, Pandora being illness free would be an example of writers will, it makes no logical sense, but that's the way it was written.


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    Quote Originally Posted by exostrike View Post
    This may be the solution to this problem. Having an environment without bacteria/viruses that can cause disease seems impossible, but if we say that Na'vi resistance to disease is much higher than mans so that most diseases are reduced to minor effects (minor flu or the common cold); then we have a solution that is reasombly realistic. I also remember a line about Na'vi that live in the swamps evolving to deal with the extra diseases there.
    you get what I mean


    Really?
    nothing is sure yet but it is still not out or any anouncement :/


    Why would a plant evolve into a disease killer? Disease resistant maybe, but then said disease would mutate and evolve into something more potent to get through its increased defenses. No plant would ever evolve to combat illness that other species might suffer, it just doesn't work that way. Again, Pandora being illness free would be an example of writers will, it makes no logical sense, but that's the way it was written.
    and after that that plant (or another, doesn't matter) is going to evolve in something that can resist that. how can we be still alive after thousands of years without medicine? probably because whe could protect ourself agaisn't the viruses. (stronger body (read above) or with any plants/medicine kind of things )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanjwale View Post
    you get what I mean




    nothing is sure yet but it is still not out or any anouncement :/




    and after that that plant (or another, doesn't matter) is going to evolve in something that can resist that. how can we be still alive after thousands of years without medicine? probably because whe could protect ourself agaisn't the viruses. (stronger body (read above) or with any plants/medicine kind of things )
    Not without the weak dying. Whenever people go on and on about "native vitality" and "natural cures", they tend to forget the reason is that the weak among them are left to die of whatever backwater illness they pickup. Nature is grim and unforgiving.


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