Do the Na'vi have an end time?

[exostrike]

An end time is term used to describe religious ideas about the end of the world (the Apocalypse).

Religions that have such a concept as an end of the world seems to suggest that the society it supports knows that things can't stay the same forever and that things change, leading them to create a religious explination for some of the large and more destructive avents. Now if the Na'vi have no such end times in thier society/religion, then they have less acceptance to change since they believe that all thing last forever. This may be one of the reasons why they fight RDA is that thier society automaticlly rejects major change since their society has no prior experience of it.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

this is a big reason that i reject religion in all its forms....they all have this 'end of the world' prophecy thing. if all of that is true,then what the hell was the point of all this???


why even bother if every individual,the humanity collective,and everything accomplished or done since the dawn of mankind,is all for nothing??? religion creates this mess,and since the Na'vi are not a religious people,but a spiritual people,they have no insane Sword of Damocles hanging over their life. religion is a human construct.


it makes no sense....and i need a ****ing drink!!!!

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[Porthos1]

It is my belief that the Na’vi would not have an “end of days” idea. Their culture/society/”religious” beliefs have remained fairly unchanged since we stopped dragging our knuckles on the ground. We know this during the scene when Neytiri is talking to Jake about Toruk Makto. There were times of tears and then a general balance. This sine wave between times of drama and good times would have instilled into their thought processes a sort of Daoist philosophy; Yin and Yang without end. They see life as balanced and never ending; “Eywa will provide” and their world is not likely to die.

[Ximphron]

this is a big reason that i reject religion in all its forms....

Most American religions don't, they believe in endless cycling I think.
Even the Maya, famous for the 2012 Apocalypse, don't have a proper apocalypse.
The problem is that as the Maya had a circular interpretation of time, once the calendar ends in Dec 2012...




It just starts back up again.

Just the interpretation of time can be interesting. From what i've seen, American peoples interpreted time as a circle.
On the other hand most European peoples interpreted time as a spiral, while many East Asian peoples interpreted it as a line.

[exostrike]

Yeah, the Mayan calander is a complicated one. As we don't really understand it or the Mayan launguage its hard to say if the dec 2012 date is the end of the world, the end of the calander (with it just repeating) or just a move to a new period/age just like the months of the year. Its move the extreme timescale of the calander that makes it hard to understand it. But if I was a mayan I would not mark the percise date for the end of the world.

[MarkD]

IMO the whole end of the world thing is all hype, nothing more. Besides scientific studies say the sun at the end of it's life will end our planet in 5 billion years. We will be long gone by then, elsewhere in the universe and humans might see the end of our planetary system.

Yeah, the whole balance of life view the Na'vi have pretty much sums up their view of life. There is no end.

[exostrike]

But the irony is there will be an end when Alpha Centauri A dies in about 4 billion years time, which is before earth's sun by about a billion years. So the planet earth wins the war either way, if there anyone left to celebrate the victory is another matter.

[allrock123]

there is not much talk of a calender in Avatar lore , the NaVi do speak of a time of great sorrow, which I will assume is a famine or war event of some kind, since the NaVi refer to time as there past generations songs (Jake) "He Rode this" (Ney) It has only happend five times since the time of the first songs" one can assume they do keep track of time, and of course the actions of there past ansestors, An intresting fact is the very likely posability the
NaVi peoples Clan name "Omatacaya" has cultural refrence meaning, if you take the word and split it you get Olmec-Maya its very likely that James Cameron at least in part used strong cultural connections from the Olmec-Mayan cultures as part of the Na'Vi cultural Idenity "since the Olmec and Maya have an increadable understanding of the Sun and stars as the seasons pass its at least posabe the Na'Vi people have a stong sence of time and there place in the universe.
I also suspect given all the very strong dream refrences used in avatar by Jake that Cameron used refrences from the olmec and mayan dream culture ,(jake) When I was lying here in tha VA hospital with a big hole blown into the middle of my life i started having these dreams of flying,,,I was free, sooner or later though you allways have to wake up. Toltec The Power of Seeing Your LIfe as a Dream - YouTube

[ALLie]

I think the Na'vi would have different "myths" according to each clan's culture. Maybe they do have some concept for sad times, but I think they see time (as the mayans do) as a cyclic continuity. "All energy is borrowed" they believe, and this speaks about a belief where nothing really "ends" but returns to the source (Eywa) and there begins another cycle. But of course this could also be just the idea they have for life and death, not for the "world" and time in general.

[tm20]

their "2012" was the day that they predicted an alien race would come down to their world and **** it all up :D