Turning Earth grey

[Tsyal Makto]

The 7th Generation rule had nothing to do with religion, it was all about ensuring the existence and health of the environment for the 7th succeeding generation. It was about always thinking ahead and treading lightly. Don't see why that's a religious thing. Sure, Native American religions might have incorporated the Earth, but the two concepts can be mutually exclusive.

[HufweMakto]

The 7th Generation rule had nothing to do with religion, it was all about ensuring the existence and health of the environment for the 7th succeeding generation. It was about always thinking ahead and treading lightly. Don't see why that's a religious thing. Sure, Native American religions might have incorporated the Earth, but the two concepts can be mutually exclusive.

There was a spiritual connection to the land, and it's health as being the indicator of the health of the people.

However, thinking ahead with how the seventh generation would survive is nothing short of critical thinking. Planning ahead, and trying to foresee future problems and solving them before they become a deterimental problem is what a society should try to do; but most often than not, societies tend to forget this, and suffer the consequences. Likewise, we have the problem of DTT in our environment, even after 50 years has slowly migrated north into northern fish and sea mammal populations effecting their health and the health of the native Iniut people who depend on the northern fish and sea mammal stocks. Adding to this is the very real problem of sea level rise effecting coastal cities, like New Orleans, Miami, and London as well as other coastal nations. One plan, which is being concentrated in the Mediterrianian, is to create a dam at the mouth of the Rock of Gilbratar, which will effect sea animal migration (perhaps deterimentally), but will save the ports of the Mediterrianian. However, not much else is being done to the flooding nation of Bangladesh and other poorer nations as well as what may happen all over the world due to rising sea levels.

[applejuice]

You wrote:

How do you know? Considering the Iroquois philosophy of Seven Generation Sustainability, I doubt modern GM would be compatible with their beliefs.

Then you replied

The 7th Generation rule had nothing to do with religion, it was all about ensuring the existence and health of the environment for the 7th succeeding generation. It was about always thinking ahead and treading lightly. Don't see why that's a religious thing. Sure, Native American religions might have incorporated the Earth, but the two concepts can be mutually exclusive.

You're mixing two different things in the same issue.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

There was a spiritual connection to the land, and it's health as being the indicator of the health of the people.

^ this...and a big reason that i am so enamored with the Na'vi,their culture,and their way of life. they truly co-exist with their enviroment and stay a part of the balance. it is their Way.

[_Omaticaya_]

^This, I see you Ja'k, yeah, it's a lovely way of living Just loyal to their god, Eywa, and in connection with Nature, respecting it, because nature gives shelter, food, shade, and even fun It's everything, Humans should respect nature more... Na'vi is the way

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

^This, I see you Ja'k, yeah, it's a lovely way of living Just loyal to their god, Eywa, and in connection with Nature, respecting it, because nature gives shelter, food, shade, and even fun It's everything, Humans should respect nature more... Na'vi is the way

^ this x 9999999.99 well said,Omaticaya. have a nice day!

[Tsyal Makto]

You wrote:

Then you replied

You're mixing two different things in the same issue.

Just some minced words. The idea of such long term sustainability isn't an issue of religion. Albeit the spiritual lives of many of them helped bring it closer to home, but the philosophy of long term sustainability can still be a strictly secular idea if need be, and can be incorporated into the modern world of atheism, Abrahamic religions, and others. One of my favorite politicial pundits brings it up all the time.

[Aihwa]

^ this...and a big reason that i am so enamored with the Na'vi,their culture,and their way of life. they truly co-exist with their enviroment and stay a part of the balance. it is their Way.

It's not so much that they choose to coexist, they live under the overarching control of the ecological hive mind.

[HufweMakto]

I wonder why everyone equates Eywa as being a part of a hivemind, it's never made sense to me. I mean, the Na'vi actually do think for themselves, and it only appears to be plants that have a permanate link with Eywa. Na'vi and connect and disconnect to Eywa whenever they please, or need to in the case of having to ride direhorses and ikrans or other tasks that come to mind. For some reason, I'm thinking of the Dragon-Riders of Pern (for those forcunate enough to know what I'm talking about).

Oh and trying to keep your environment clean and healthy has more to do with thinking ahead. As a species, one of our major steps forward was our ability to plan ahead and think about the future. Unforcunately, this ability isn't evoke alot.

[applejuice]

Before derailing more the discussion, I'll ask one more time: What is the damage that will bring the use of GMOs? (Do not consider the commercial side). Seeing that GMOs and Organic farming offer almost the same results, I think it is more a matter of choice or legislation or, probably the most important, a matter of information.