I disagree with the premise of this board.

[transcend]

exactly.. watch the videos and you may see there is a big connection and maybe change your beliefs

[DeMouse]

exactly.. watch the videos and you may see there is a big connection and maybe change your beliefs

I never said they never align. But I fail to see how things like battery hens, cockfights, bullfights, fur coats... ETC affect human rights.

And before you go blabbing on about that stuff i'm not saying they are necessarily good things, just that they have no bearing on human rights. Overlapping is not the same as dependant upon.

[transcend]

well now you are comparing animals to the environment and excluding humans.. what about the people involved in those activities.. they have people around them too.. and those people are effected by these things.. diseases come from those things too.. simply put you cannot take humans and their actions out of the environment

[DeMouse]

well now you are comparing animals to the environment and excluding humans.. what about the people involved in those activities.. they have people around them too.. and those people are effected by these things.. diseases come from those things too.. simply put you cannot take humans and their actions out of the environment

I agree to a point in that we have to live in this environment (for now). But there are many conservation activities that simply have no impact on humans. E.G. Pandas.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

simply put you cannot take humans and their actions out of the environment

this is a very true statement and our collective refusal to remain a link in the natural world chain,is having an unfathomable and far-reaching impact on the enviroment,and in many cases,irreversible damage. that 1986 nuclear meltdown in Chernobyl is having catastrophic enviromental consequences far beyond our generation,with a minimal half-life of 250 years....can you imagine all the life that has died in that area since 1986? trees,animals,insects,humans,plants,vegetation,not to mention the long-term effects of mutating chromosomes,animal dna,plants,etc....


yes,we are having a disasterous impact on our enviroment and the natural world.

[_Omaticaya_]

'I disagree with the premise of this thread' Hahahahahah

But I'm happy that somehow it turned out to be quite interesting thanks to J'ak and transcend's posts

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

'I disagree with the premise of this thread' Hahahahahah

But I'm happy that somehow it turned out to be quite interesting thanks to J'ak and transcend's posts

'i disagree with the premise of this thread'....i like that and i heartily second this!!!