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This is a discussion thread about: Homeless people inside the Human & Environmental Rights forum, part of the AVATAR General Forums category. Just wanted to say that... I feel kind of stupid suddenly, kind of bad... Because in a whole lifetime, I ...

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    Just wanted to say that... I feel kind of stupid suddenly, kind of bad... Because in a whole lifetime, I never really gave much importance, definitely not enough to this issue... I mean I always have known it, and felt like this before, but it's complicated... There's many gipsies around, they just steal and they make me angr... but it's so wrong to just stereotype any person living on the street :/ I admit I do often, if I see a person that is drunk, stinks, lying there, or asking money, I kind of stay away, I'm like, I better keep waya from that person... but, man I feel stupid. That person shouldn't be like that... :/ Imagine how he/she must feel :( there are so many lovely people, that are though hungry, with no home, no family... :( See, yesterday night I was out with my friends as every Friday, and we are in our nice warm new clothes, and shoes and had a dinner out and are laughin our way back to our homes... Then suddenly, when we got to the station, I realized there was just, so many homeless people there... They're out there living out a really hard life... I'm just getting meals at a restaurant and driving home...There's loads, some standing, lying, sitting, whatever... I go through there so much, but do I ever take notice of them? No... And I was really sad, because yesterday there was an ambulance there outside the station, and this very thin north african homeless man, against a wall, his body was shaking, he was looking real bad, I don't know what he had... But I felt so bad, nearly sick looking at him, moved inside, when you see real suffering... Seeing this man, who is he? What's his story? He's suffering right now, he might be very ill, and hungry, cold... but no one cares for him... :( What do they do, or think all day? See my life is kind of screwed because I have no plans or I can't see a future either but... Nothing compared to them, I have family food shelter and a so-called regular modern life... They don't... I don't know... When I came home and was eating my hot meal in my heated house... Basically what I mean is, it sucks, they're people, we're ALL the same, but they're not as lucky as many... And most of them really don't deserve it :/ I was like, ****... this just sucks, why is it like this?, I'm ok, while there's thousands of lone people in the cold out there starving... And most of the time, when you walk past one in the street, people laugh at them, or make jokes and stuff... It's so fukd up, but like, what could I, as a person do? All you can do is give a coin or two really right? I mean, I don't know, just know it's sad, very sad only...
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    alot of people are living in cars and trailers..


    of course this is going on around the world and has been for a while.. i found this last one interesting..

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    2 things. and its jus so great that you started this post. because I still have it in my head.

    once I saw on tv (and I made a post about it) a homeless man that was beated up by 3 guys. comon guys. A HOMELESS MAN... IN A WEELCHAIR... WITH 3 GUYS... they even threw a bike on him. if I saw them. I would put a bullet in their head. doesn't matter if I would go to prison. they don't deserve to life. the homeless guy was doing nothing wrong. was in a weelchair. it was 3vs1, and even a bike. luckly they get caught.

    and I saw a homeless man in my train station. and I saw him. and it was so... I don't know. if I didn't had a friend beside me I had gave him 10bucks. he was dirty. was wearing old clothes. everytime I think about him. I want to hit my head to the table only because I didn't helped him. like you said. actually because I didn't helped. I sometimes think. why am I alive. only studieing. only eating. I shoud help other poeple. and I didn't.........
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    I have to admit to being some what conflicted on this subject. As a fire fighter I had to deal with so many drunken street people I started to loose any empathy for them, thats when I knew it was time to move on. I was raised an army brat and boy scout. I took the "egalitarian" concept of total self reliance and self sufficiency to heart. I have a hard time with what I consider to be a "dependant" mentality that seems to permeate modern society, it bothers me to see some kid living in poverty but the first thing that comes to my mind is "what were the parents thinking?" If you can barely support yourself what the heck are you doing haveing kids? If your life is a friggin train wreck how do you think being a parent is going to help? As far as I'm concerned there is a whole class of people that shouldn't be parents they realy suck at it. Certainly not all of them are poor, some of my yuppie buddys are the worst at parenting. There are now over 7 billion people on the planet and while for the most part I don't begrudge anyone being here the world is getting pretty crowded. I fear we are fast approaching a "tipping point" I think we are already way past a long term sustainable population for this planet and if we don't solve it soon "mother nature" will do it for us. I don't consider myself the paranoid "conspiracy theory" type (used to work with a few though) but I am a history and sci/fi buff it seems like civilization and society is getting frayed around the edges as people question the fundamental roles of government and corporations in our lives. The kind of economic and political upheaval we are seeing around the world today has usually resolved itself in the past with a major conflict. Rome, Napolean, and both world wars come to mind. I think Assimov wrote the "Foundation" series based on the premise that civilizations were cyclical in nature and it was inevitable that they would eventualy collapse. I don't necessarily agree but it's and interesting premise. I read an article a while back that compared the various countries of the world as passengers aboard a jet all fighting over who gets to sit in first class while no one is in the cockpit flying the plane. Unfortunately with the current crop of world leaders we have I think that is the situation we are still in.

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    I always help homeless people. If they ask me for "spare change", I usually give them like 5 bucks. Unless of course I get the expression that they are fake homeless people who pretend to be homeless as a hobby to get extra money lol.
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    If I were to give $5.00 to every streetperson I met I'd be broke before I got halfway across down town. Some of these people are such black holes of needyness that all the resources of planet earth wouldn't fix their problems, I realy don't know what the solution is. Wonder how the Na'Vii would handle this? I imagine there would be a low tolerance for "slackers" it would put the survival of the tribe as a whole at risk.

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    For some people the world will never be right. Things break down because they have a different outlook on life, one that dose not conform to the norm of society(school, job, family). Most turn to drugs and booze to escape the pain, and people tend to only see that aspect, the lazy degenerate. Behind all that is a human being with a real soul. Usually some tragic event, like abuse, has deminished their ability to function in society. Many feel like scum, dirty and uncleanable; they become their own judge, jury, and excutioner. They resign themseleves to their sad fate because they cannot dream of redemption and acceptance. We don't know how to help these people because we cannot comprehend their despair. That is why so often they relapse into their homeless lifestyles even after real help has been given because they know only that they deserve this horrible fate as some kind of punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akgeff View Post
    Wonder how the Na'Vii would handle this? I imagine there would be a low tolerance for "slackers" it would put the survival of the tribe as a whole at risk.
    That's one of the thousands of reasons why the Na'vi are so much better and organized: There would never be such thing as 'homeless' Na'vi, they are an intelligent an organized community, they have a life and a path to follow, a clan, a clean world... Not like us humans that just kind of live it out how it happens, and these people that just decide to screw it all and take drugs or booze whateverand end up in the street -.-... (not all of them ofcourse). And I really will NOT say that all the blame goes on them though... Most of it, but the way this world is, does not help... Earth should be called the Bureau instead... There's a book called 'The Castle' by Kafka, if you ever read that it's a good example of how crazy this world is, basically there's never a conclusion, life is just an eternal run around looking for cash, or ways to get other cash to survive... I mean, just how ****ed up does that sound? *shake's head* :(
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    Modern(westernized)human beings are not close enough to eachother to be on the same page as the Na'vi. On this world, a person has pretty much only the immidiate family and a few friends to rely upon. The staggering number of children raised by only one parent is a giant red flag-and if that one parent is unstable the child is put into a real social disadvantage. Poverty is another huge red flag. Poverty generates massive amounts of stress in every facet of daily life. Issues like these can damage impressionable minds in a way that is all too often self destructive.
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    The Na'vi as seen in Avatar have no shortage of extended flamily support, and poverty is non-existent. Children will inherit the love and support of the community and be productive and happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    The Na'vi as seen in Avatar have no shortage of extended flamily support, and poverty is non-existent. Children will inherit the love and support of the community and be productive and happy.
    That's what I love to hear I see you
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