Jake WHY Didn't You Warn the Navi the Humans WERE Coming with Devasting Firepower

[Holea]

This has bothered me no end. Yes Jake FINNALLY ran to the council and sputtered the truth. WHY wait until the dozers were there? Why did he just not admit he was learning about them and trying to educate the humans? A little "white lie" that could have avoided the anger and maybe saved so man Navi....

The Navi obviously knew about guns and the choppers. They had to be watching Hell Base for years. Grace only mentioned briefly about their shooting the Navi some time prior but there are zero details.

Killing the Navi with guns IS NOT THE SAME THING as an assault with heavy weapons, gas and incendaries. So many Navi died because they took no precautions when the gunships came. There was no evacuation of the women and childred "just in case". If they'd begun to run the moment the ships arrived many would have lived.

The big thing is Why did Jake not tell them the Humans COVETED the soil beneath hometree? He CLEARLY understoond human greed and how callous they were. AND Jake KNEW without any doubt they were going to force them from hometree.

And the tactics of the battle afterward. Charging heavy machine guns and AMPs on horesback with bows and arrows from only ONE direction. That was pure suicide like the British did in early part of American Revolutionary War.

And not anything about dealing with the AMP's. Why not lure them deeper into the jungle and make it far more diffiult to use the AMP's effectively. At least make the AMP's WORK for it. They obviously ran on some kind of fossel fuel from the exhausts. Run em out of gas for Pete's sake. SOMETHING.

I don't know. That slaughter just seemed blind stupidity. Shrug. And Jake was a Marine and don't tell me he was a complete DA regarding tactics. One other thing. The shere volume of explosives that were loaded on those pallets was mindboggling. It would have taken out the equivilent of several city blocks. They were right on top of the tree of souls and it did not ver far before crashing. The concusion should have shattered the Colonels craft as it was so close.

Anyway. Fun movie to watch but not much help from Jake until he tamed big bird. And not a lot until Ewya intervened at that. Sure he took out a few gunships but they were losing until the intervention.

[RDAGoon]

Jake didn't think they would actually burn them out of the tree and bring it down like that. He told Quaritch he needed one more day to try and get them to leave. Instead, they moved the bulldozers up to the Trees of Voices and dozed them to incite a Na'vi response. Jake obviously didn't know this would happen or he would have told Neytiri not to go there and certainly not slept with her in their path. In the collector's edition you see a scene after where Tsu'tey and a gaggle of warriors have killed the small contingent of RDA troops and burned the bulldozers. Wainfleet and friends go to investigate and Selfridge/Quaritch see the burning dozers and dead soldiers with arrows in them. This is followed by Quaritch speaking to Selfridge about gassing them out of the tree "humanely" and Selfridge agreeing to the final attack on Hometree.

I think Jake was kind of being naive, hoping the RDA wouldn't react that way. Quaritch one-upped him though and instigated a series of events that lead to the Hometree assault.

[tm20]

because if he told them he would have been kicked out of the Omaticaya and he obviously didnt want that because he fell in love with Neytiri which he didnt expect

[Ibelieve]

"It started out as just orders, but then i fell in love...." When you're in love I guess you'll do anything to protect that. Even if it is irresponsible, stupid and leads to you're eventual downfall.

[Holea]

Selfridge referred to the Navi as "the blue monkeys". What does that say to you. As far as the Colonel was concerned, he was yearning for violence. He was addicted to it.

He was restrained only by the bad press RDA would get from random slaughter. He did not have free reign to do as he wished. He had to plot to get it. All he had to do was keep provoking the Navi until it "became" Self Defense.

It looks like all the humans practically viewed the Navi as a sub-species, nothing approaching humans.

I know a few scientists disagreed but they were in the vast minority. This was a hgue, powerful and ruthless corporation of the future. Jake came from a world that had nearly destroyed itself time and again. Jake did not come from an Amish Country farm. I do not buy he was naive. He was also a highly trained soldier. Jake was no nerd in a wheelchair.

Greed was driving this whole adventure on Pandora. LOL When is the last time anyone heard of "limits' on Corporate greed. In one way though, the survival of the fittest comes into play. All throughout history, the strongest subjegated the weak. Be it man or animal that is the way it was and still is. Species of animal, plant and sealife have come and gone because of their failure to adapt or another species was superior and wiped them out. I am not making any statement about it being right or wrong.

Does morality enter into the picture when lions kill tiny Cheetah cubs?? It is called The Survival Instinct. On Pandora apparently Ewya "governed" life on the planet so that no species ever "went away" due to the strength or power of another species.
Remember "Ewya only protects the balance of life".

Maybe when the great tree became sentient it closed Pandora's evolution. Everything remaned pat and nothing changed perhaps for thousands of years. The Navi never developed any real tools or technology. They were not shown to be in great numbers on the planet. Most dominate species grow and over time will be widely spread. Shrug. Is all pure conjecture of course.

[Ibelieve]

It's also a movie. Commercial success.

[Scott]

Hope. Jake had hope he could wrangle a peaceful resolution between the Humans and the Na'vi. His hope, combined with his ever increasing love for the Na'vi in general, and Neytiri in particular, blinded him from ever considering force being used to relocate the Na'vi. To spin it another way, imagine deadly force being used to relocate the population of a elementary school. In short, you just can't wrap your mind around something so un-human like.

[Holea]

Can't quite compare this to an elementary school. The RDA and their mercenary soldiers viewed the Navi as a sub-human species at best. Recall the "blue monkeys" comment early in the movie.

I know that the RDA "forced" them to defend themselves as if they would stand still for their strip mined their whole planet.

Whether Jake warned them or not the RDA WAS coming to hometree with its rich deposits. They were not about to allow a tribe of Non-Human "tree huggers" to stop them from getting to that rich ore.

How much plainer could the Colonel be. "You've got 3 months. That's when the dozers get there". Did that register with anyone defending Jake as the hero here?? The RDA mining equipment would BE THERE in three months to dig the ore out whether the Navi were still in the tree or not.

Yes it would be a bit "easier" on their conscience but it would NOT bother their pocketbooks one shred. After all, in their minds, it's not like they were killing humans, just the blue monkeys. Jake was a Marine, a hardend killer on his own.

I honestly do not know if it was his eventual love for her or that this was HIS escape from the humiliating bounds of his wheelchair. The Avatar offered that freedom to Jake and in spades. It was an awesome exhilerating life where he could leap, walk, and run as he wished. Once in that Avatar's body, yes I agree it became an overpowrering pull on his mind. The Avatar became his reality and his human body became the bad dream..

But having said that, it is all the more reason to protect the Navi. He could have said early on that he had been asked to teach the humans about the Navi in turn. But instead of their learning and coming to an understanding and appreication they rejected it and were falling back into their hostile and dangerous ways. etc, and so forth.

[Lionheart]

Because James Cameron didn't want him to. :P Okay, in all seriousness, I don't think he thought that the RDA would intentionally provoke a war with the Omaticaya.

[HufweMakto]

Actually given the circumstances, if Jake went ahead and told the Na'vi who he was and what he was doing there in the first place, they would've had his head. Then if he didn't warn them at the 11th hour (so to speak) then there would've been a full blown war between Na'vi and Humans without the help of Toruk Makto.

Like it or not, Jake was in a bind, and he was being manipulated by Quaritch in some sense.