the 'midichlorianization' of Avatar 2?

[Mike Philbin]

Dear James Cameron,

it's not the first time I've compared you to the alternative-universe sci-fi great George Lucas, but please don't 'midichlorianize' Eywa.

What does this mean?

Well, remember the 1970's Star Wars, where Alec Guinness said, “The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.”

Great, I totally get that. All is connected. Then in the New Star Wars trilogy, THE FORCE became 'a viral infestation' like thrush or herpes or space flu, measurable with a Midichlorian Meter. What a downer.

I know you like the idea that PANDORA is a living INTERNET of some sort, an organic computer ... but please don't 'infect' it with the artificial bacteria of Eywa ... let her stay 'spiritual' and 'undefined' a 'sum total' rather than divine intervention.

I'm REALLY WORRIED about the 'infestation' of Eywa (i.e. the mountain of racial memory accrued over the millennia) by Grace Augustine's human 'programming' or unhideable 'instinct' ... I'm still convinced Avatar 2 and 3 will be about the deterioration of Eywa.

In the same way that the 16th century armada led by Hernando Cortez INEFSTED the Aztec peoples in a such a pandemically lethal fashion. Don't rot Eywa from the inside ... that'd be HORRIBLE and CRUEL and, as well as unnecessary, UNCALLED FOR.

[Emil]

I swear Philbin starts some of the weirdes threads ever.

[seykxel txe´lan]

I swear Philbin starts some of the weirdes threads ever.

True, but i love reading them :D

[_Omaticaya_]

Yeah, i read a book by an author called 'Diamond' or something, about history, and technology, science, biology, everything, and i read about Cortez's story... I'd say that's an example of first Corporations, the ones you mention often man. I can't remember the numbers, but they were like, 90 spanish soldiers, against thousands of native americans, and they won, just by killing some, and the rest got scared, they made them think they were some kind of gods, just because of some gun powder... Wow, they ruined a society... That's when it all went wrong... Colonies, exploiting, genocides, wars, it was only like 5-6 centuries ago when we fukd it up... If everybody would have just led their life, respecting different cultures... Anyway, i didn't exactly understand what you mean, but if i did, i agree, Eywa shoulnd't become some sort of divine interpreter, shes made of all living things and thats it right? God instead protects those who follow Him, He's real (btw i know its off-topic but does it matter?)

[Sempu]

Couldn't agree more. I also don't want to see Eywa become a supercomputer. Somewhere I think we had a thread on the things that should not happen in A2. This was probably #37, after "Jake discovers Quaritch is his father."

[Aihwa]

Couldn't agree more. I also don't want to see Eywa become a supercomputer. Somewhere I think we had a thread on the things that should not happen in A2. This was probably #37, after "Jake discovers Quaritch is his father."

It is a supercomputer. A biological medium carrying billions of ones and zeros. Like a brain.

Eywa has been "science!"-ed already.

[Mike Philbin]

Yeah, but you'all know what I mean, right?

It took the Dr Augustine (science priest) to explain it in earthly terms as a "Global Network where you can upload and download data". But the Na'Vi certainly don't treat it, or their lives on Pandora, that way.

They don't go, "Hang a sec little Tsao-Koy, I'm just gonna finish this memo to Eywa and I'll help you gut that fish."

They never talk like this - they don't UTILISE a direct link to Eywa, they ARE the direct link with Eywa. Their existence is the foundation for the link, not the link that they connect to. No Na'Vi flora and fauna, no Eywa.

Now, I've got my self thinking, I wanna know how DEEP this Eywa consciousness goes. Is Eywa a surface (or roots) communication trick or does the AFFECT go all the way to the centre of Pandora? And by that I mean, "Is Eywa just a tree-like infection of the living surface of the planet, like Star Wars's horrendous midichlorians?" or can Eywa COMMUNICATE with her neighbouring planets and peoples? Is Eywa a surface-localised (flatland) resultant consciousness or does Eywa have EXTRA-DIMENSIONAL powers built into her (unknown) design and origin?

Can Eywa COMMUNICATE WITH THE EARTH in the same way? Will Eywa (and Augustine) start connecting with Earth in Avatar 3? Or something...

[Mike Philbin]

Couldn't agree more. I also don't want to see Eywa become a supercomputer. Somewhere I think we had a thread on the things that should not happen in A2. This was probably #37, after "Jake discovers Quaritch is his father."

This made me laugh quite hard. Thanks.

[Mike Philbin]

Yeah, i read a book by an author called 'Diamond' or something, about history, and technology, science, biology, everything, and i read about Cortez's story... I'd say that's an example of first Corporations, the ones you mention often man. I can't remember the numbers, but they were like, 90 spanish soldiers, against thousands of native americans, and they won, just by killing some, and the rest got scared, they made them think they were some kind of gods, just because of some gun powder... Wow, they ruined a society... That's when it all went wrong... Colonies, exploiting, genocides, wars, it was only like 5-6 centuries ago when we fukd it up... If everybody would have just led their life, respecting different cultures... Anyway, i didn't exactly understand what you mean, but if i did, i agree, Eywa shoulnd't become some sort of divine interpreter, shes made of all living things and thats it right? God instead protects those who follow Him, He's real (btw i know its off-topic but does it matter?)

Yep, but the New World had VALUED ASSETS that the Spanish wanted. And the natives of that land (because they were different and considered ANIMALS) were just something IN THE WAY. A rash you'd treat with some cream. Gone, dispelled.

:(

[Aihwa]

I think what you're trying to say, is Eywa the ecosystem, or another Zonama Sekot. Eywa is the ecosystem, because Zonama Sekot can move itself.