Avatar 2 Theory: Ancient Na'vi Civilzation?

[HufweMakto]

I've been thinking of this, and it hasn't been given much thought in the way of WMGs (wild mass guessings) or any forum thread, but would be it possible that there could have been an ancient Na'vi civilzation has come to my mind as of lately, mainly out of some things I've noted in the film and in the backstory.
It's noted that the Na'vi's society is either as old as or older than human civilzation. This causes some questions to be brought up, namely how could an entire society not change for some 10,000 plus years? My minor quibble about this would be that it does not seem natural for ANY kind of society, which has brought me to a certain theory I would like to make:

Sometime in the last 10,000 years or so, the Na'vi had a sufficiently advanced civilzation. It thrived but either died off slowly, possibily due to environmental factors (similar to what happened to the Mayan and Anazazi civilzations; they didn't die off, they stopped living in the buildings and building and mantaining temples and cities) or they were catastrophically destroyed (maybe the first Time of Great Sorrow?), to the point that the Na'vi just couldn't live that way. The Na'vi eventually became the Omaticaya and other Clans we saw in the movie (I don't know about other Clans out there, but I suspect that every Na'vi clan is unique in it's own way); the cities and temples were later lost to the growing rainforests and jungles. When the RDA came around, the ruins of the former civilzation were so overgrown and deterioated that no one can recognize them as viable ruins. Add to the fact that the RDA were more interested in mining unobtainium than they were finding ruins or studying the Na'vi, outside of the anthrologists and the scientists coming there; and you have to wonder what else is out there. There is just so much about the Na'vi we don't know outside of a few tools, weapons, and their language; we do not know a lot of their songs, their stories, their mythology outside of Eywa and the floating seeds.

My main thought is that the second movie will explore the Na'vi's culture more in detail than it did in the first film, also get into their history and Eywa.

[Na'vi_supporter]

^ Yes this. Or kind of post singularity society.

Well ...really if you look at Pandora nature and especially Eywa, you see something that has very small probability to be created by natural evolution. It can even transfer minds ! Secondary Na'vi themselves dont look similar to any other beings on the moon - for example animals here has six legs and I noticed no hair at all, look more like reptiles. And queues, why do animals have them? Can direhorses connect with each other or Eywa(yes in this case they can but using queues?)? If no, i don't think there is any possible explanation for the evolution of the queues in natural way.
But I have not red Activist survival guide, so maybe all of this is explained there, and I am writing nonsences.

[HufweMakto]

^ Yes this. Or kind of post singularity society.

Well ...really if you look at Pandora nature and especially Eywa, you see something that has very small probability to be created by natural evolution. It can even transfer minds ! Secondary Na'vi themselves dont look similar to any other beings on the moon - for example animals here has six legs and I noticed no hair at all, look more like reptiles. And queues, why do animals have them? Can direhorses connect with each other or Eywa(yes in this case they can but using queues?)? If no, i don't think there is any possible explanation for the evolution of the queues in natural way.
But I have not red Activist survival guide, so maybe all of this is explained there, and I am writing nonsences.

The Activist Guide is a must read for all Avatar fans, and people who talk about Avatar without knowing much else. The closest animal that Na'vi look like, and are probably related to are the prolemuris.

The queue thing is something that offers up a question for me as well, but it's present in almost all Pandoran wildlife, with the exception of quite a few (fanlizard and hellfire wasp for example). The sequal has to expand on the world of Pandora and perhaps a few of it's moons.

[Na'vi_supporter]

The closest animal that Na'vi look like, and are probably related to are the prolemuris.
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Oh, you are right....prolemuris

And I hope sequel will look deeper in the na'vi culture, history and their origin instead of full-scale war movie (was mentioned somewhere as possible way ).

[HufweMakto]

Oh, you are right....prolemuris

And I hope sequel will look deeper in the na'vi culture, history and their origin instead of full-scale war movie (was mentioned somewhere as possible way ).

I think it's going to do two things at once, namely explore Na'vi culture and full-scale war in both the background and foreground. This has happened before: in the original Star Wars triology, we have the rebel alliance war happening alongside Luke's journey to learn about his father and the Jedi.

[HufweMakto]

I feel like this needs a bump, since it might be an interesting topic in regards to the sequal.

[Dreaming Of Pandora]

It's a great theory and one very possible reason for their apparent lack of advancement. But maybe because the Na'vi live in harmony with their surroundings and they're aware of the consequences of upsetting the eco-system through Eywa that they decided that advancing (which would involve destroying their environment) is too big a price to pay. Just my view on it, you're idea still is very awesome.

[Zapgun]

how would such an entity as eywa arise naturally from the natural conflict and struggle for survival that is nature?

[yorkshirepudding123]

I don't think that the Na'vi would have lived in houses or had temples, mainly because why would the Na'vi evolve only to devolve and if the Na'vi haven't evolved for thousands of year then they probably don't need to evolve. When the Na'vi see the Human technology they seem baffled and they certaintly don't like it so they probably would never embrace new technology.

[HufweMakto]

I don't think that the Na'vi would have lived in houses or had temples, mainly because why would the Na'vi evolve only to devolve and if the Na'vi haven't evolved for thousands of year then they probably don't need to evolve. When the Na'vi see the Human technology they seem baffled and they certaintly don't like it so they probably would never embrace new technology.

I'm not saying they devolved, I'm just saying that their civilzation collasped perhaps out of ecological collaspe and/or societal collaspe. Collapse does not nessecarily mean "devolving", it means that there was a certain limitation factor they did not take into account, likewise what happened with how many civilzations in desert climes were eventually taken down by lack of water, or ones in rather fragile ecosystems that depleted and destroyed their only food source.

What I'm purposing is that the Na'vi had a sufficiently perhaps technologically advanced civilzation that probably collasped from either natural or societal disaster. It could've been a disease or, like in one fanfic I once read, in the far past by a nuclear or nuclear-like weapon. Perhaps the survivors couldn't rebuild after the catrastrophe and started living the way the Na'vi of the film did.

Of course, to deter the haters and the people who complain that "queues can't be naturally made", it's kinda folly to start criticizing the science of the first film, right? Especially when it's science-fiction. There are some clues that have been passed around, notably, some of them given right out by Cameron, Pandorapedia and the Guidebook. Nature does some very weird things, if you ever read about kudus and acacia trees in Africa, you'll know what I'm talking about. (as for said relationship between kudus and acacia trees, the actual case sounds like a strange animal version of The Happening).