Na'Vi Religion?

[tm0417]

Hey all!
I am writing becuase I am absolutly in love with the Na'Vi Culture, and their beleifs that all energy is only borrowed, and one day you have to give it back. I would like to know if there is a religion existing in the world that reflects that of the Na'Vi, or if there is a specific and real Na'Vi religion. Honestly, I would like to subscribe to it. They are a great thing. I hope one day, our world will lead us to our own Pandora.

[Human No More]

There's no 'religion' - IMO, organised religion is the complete opposite of the Na'vi philosophy. Just respect for life, don't harm the environment, try to live like the Na'vi as you can, is what I think.

[kimimarokaguya]

scientifically speaking, we do use energy in our body and my common sense is telling me that we do give back our energy. If you would like to live like people on pandora, respect other beings and nature. Go to the forest for a walk. dont rely on technology, rely on your instincts in nature and youll feel like your on pandora. :D trust me, i tried

[Annata]

Religions are just the early attempts of sentient beings to understand reality. Why do you wanna go back when we have much better ways of aquiring knowledge.

If you like the lifestyle said religion/ideology provides, you can have that without the baggage of false paradigms and infantile presuppositions.

[saska]

the thing of borrowed energy etc is quite interesting... i believe that idea or philosophy or even a religion belong to first human tribes... let's remember that before monotheism there were religions with many gods, most of them they had a woman for a supreme goddess... women were considered as a core of society, protectors of humanity etc.

Ey'wa keep everything in balance and peace.

[Seamus]

the thing of borrowed energy etc is quite interesting... i believe that idea or philosophy or even a religion belong to first human tribes... let's remember that before monotheism there were religions with many gods, most of them they had a woman for a supreme goddess... women were considered as a core of society, protectors of humanity etc.

Ey'wa keep everything in balance and peace.

And, just after multi-theism there was actually a period of time where there was a feminine monotheism. Look back at Catal Huyuk. It is the oldest known city, in what is today Turkey, and was a center for Lunar Cult (mono-goddess worship). Nowadays we have Solar Cult, and, while it started out balanced (ancient pictures of pharaohs show two women behind him, steering him, and the Egyptian tarot shows this principle as well) it got out of balance by the time of Akenaton. That is the beginning of a religion of "belief" rather than "experience", because, the control-freakishness of Unbalanced Solar Cult is based on the fictional imaginations of the Ego. I won't go into it here, since most on this forum are already fed up with Unbalanced Solar Cult. :nwink:

It's been said elsewhere (on the articles referencing Ayahuasca, especially) that the Na'vi don't "believe" in Eywa. They experience her. This same thing is possible today on earth with our own Mother. But you have to be very brave and serious about it. There is no toying with the Medicine. Healthy young (40) men have been known to drop dead as a result of misusing it. OR maybe it was just their impatience to join with Eywa!? We can't know... but it is the testimony of a growing number that you can indeed experience the spirit of our planet using the Vine of Souls. She loves us and wants us to grow.

Dont' be afraid! (dont' know why i said that)

[saska]

And, just after multi-theism there was actually a period of time where there was a feminine monotheism. Look back at Catal Huyuk. It is the oldest known city, in what is today Turkey, and was a center for Lunar Cult (mono-goddess worship). Nowadays we have Solar Cult, and, while it started out balanced (ancient pictures of pharaohs show two women behind him, steering him, and the Egyptian tarot shows this principle as well) it got out of balance by the time of Akenaton. That is the beginning of a religion of "belief" rather than "experience", because, the control-freakishness of Unbalanced Solar Cult is based on the fictional imaginations of the Ego. I won't go into it here, since most on this forum are already fed up with Unbalanced Solar Cult. :nwink:

It's been said elsewhere (on the articles referencing Ayahuasca, especially) that the Na'vi don't "believe" in Eywa. They experience her. This same thing is possible today on earth with our own Mother. But you have to be very brave and serious about it. There is no toying with the Medicine. Healthy young (40) men have been known to drop dead as a result of misusing it. OR maybe it was just their impatience to join with Eywa!? We can't know... but it is the testimony of a growing number that you can indeed experience the spirit of our planet using the Vine of Souls. She loves us and wants us to grow.

Dont' be afraid! (dont' know why i said that)

hmmmmmmmmmmm... that's interesting.

[Na'viTirea]

there is no set religion for the Na'vi, they worship only Eywa because it has the power of life over them :)

[applejuice]

They can't have a religion because Eywa is something real and measurable, not some class of vudu practice.

[mineee]

Hello friend,

I don't know if it's an answer for you, but i wanted to talk with you.

I'm muslim, but not only in the title, i do my religious duties, thus i can see, feel, think like a muslim. It means, i also try to understand Islamic mysticism, sufism. Believe me or not, after seing the film with my fiancee, we've talked about how this film had common values with Islam and sufism.

Let me give you an example, there's notion called "vahdet-i vucud" means "oneness of existence". This says that we're all sharing something with Allah, so every being is important and while you look at them, you can be able to see God, by looking beyond the matter, corpus. So, humans, animals, trees, nature are all connected and effect each other just like in Avatar. Allah -the name of God in Islam- says "For the ones who can see, there's message everywhere in universe." or "If you want to find me and happiness, than look around you and think about them" These may not be the exact sentences, but i tried to give the meanings. These are sentences from the holly book Quran.

Islam is an environmentalist religion. God says in Quran about 1450 years ago "Don't damage the balance in nature." There are also a lot of principles that Hz. Mohammad tells about nature, human life, relations with and behaviours to other living-things. Prophet Mohammed told people to be also phsycially healthy. He organized a lot of sportive games like archery, sword-shield games, swimming (he and his friends regularly competed about who swim fastest) and there are a lot of examples like these.

And Islam tells us, our body is a gift and escrow until we are dead. So we should keep it fit and healthy, this is our duty. Also there are a lot of sentences in Quran about animals, Allah gives us examples about them and tell us to not misbehave them. In Quran Allah tells us a anecdote about 7 people, these people were discriminated against,they ran away and hide in a cave. They slept for long years, like hundreds. But please note that,one of these fellows was a DOG. His name was Kitmir. Allah praises this dog and prais dog's faith. I guess our dear Christian friends also know this story, it is called Seven Sleepers.

There's another thing that i'd like to say. Allah really hears as and gives answers, but human should make practises to notice it. Allah also says in Quran "I'm closer to you then your jugular".

I just mentioned a few examples, but turst me if you make a research about Islam you can find thousands and millions of this sort of principles. If you wish, I can inform you more about Islam and its point of view to nature and humanity. Maybe you could find a book about Islamic sufism, Islam and read them. It's a much more rich and satisfying world then Cameron's.

One little reminder, please do not evaluate Islam with the behaviours of all muslims. Some of them don't represent Islam any more, because they all quit to do the practices of sufism. Please also do not evaluate Islam with 11/9 and current political issues.

And there's one video that might help you to understand what i'm talking about, Please give some minutes and watch it. it's in english.
Dailymotion - avustralyalı müslüman olan genç.. - Yaşam Kanalı (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ox1u_avustralyaly-musluman-olan-genc_lifestyle?from=rss)

Thank you very much for reading my message. I hope you'll find everything in your life...

[ProfoundHeart]

No, there isn't a religion based on Na'vi culture, and IMO, I hope there never is an actual 'Religion' on it, we have enough problems with our current religions as it is.

[Demiurgos]

I also think there is no Na'Vi religion, in a classical sense.
They believe alright, in Eywa - which is I suppose the entire planet, but they are aware that they are a part of it too, they are Eywa too.
If they had a religion or mythology a kin to humanity's they would believe in many deities and would have a pantheon , like ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Babylonians etc.
It would have been very, very easy for them, if they've chosen to create a mythology/religion to do so, and personally I asked myself for a long time now, why they did not ?
Just look at the pandoras sky !
Three suns (perhaps only two visible), Giant gass planet - Polyphemys and many moons ....

Are they so backwards or are they so advanced ?
How come they are not interested in Universe ?

[Pygmy-Na'vi]

No, there isn't a religion based on Na'vi culture, and IMO, I hope there never is an actual 'Religion' on it, we have enough problems with our current religions as it is.


I agree. Organised religion is way too easy to corrupt.

To tm0417 : Faith is not really something you subscribe to. Subscription usually means "give us your money" in one way or another, and what use does Eywa have for money? The flame of Life (call it God, Goddess, Gods, Brahman, Eywa, Gaia, Divinity, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, whatever) burns within everything. All different, all unique, all equal. Every individual has their own truth, which can never be transferred to another in full, simply because they are not the same person. Organised religions usually nurture a sense of "us and them", draw up rules which are supposed to apply to all humankind and preach their message, which in practice often turns into different levels of forcing or scaring people into lines or boxes which can impossibly fit all.

There simply is no "One True Religion". My advice is; believe in whatever you will, if there is no existing religion suitable for you, simply make up your own. It will be just as true as any "acknowledged" faith (ridiculous word btw), and no one has the right to tell you differently.

[saska]

in orthodoxy the Resurrection is the most celebrated moment... we start again with a hope that the new chapter of our life will be better in every sense of that word, we celebrate life as the most important thing in the world... that give us the energy to keep going to do good things possibly more often.

[VrrtepTaronyu]

I think pantheism is the closest to the Na'Vi's beliefs, i dont know much about the subject but i think is all about how god, nature and all living things are conected or are the same thing or something like that, maybe u should look into that :D

[Keiraak]

Hey all!
I am writing becuase I am absolutly in love with the Na'Vi Culture, and their beleifs that all energy is only borrowed, and one day you have to give it back. I would like to know if there is a religion existing in the world that reflects that of the Na'Vi, or if there is a specific and real Na'Vi religion. Honestly, I would like to subscribe to it. They are a great thing. I hope one day, our world will lead us to our own Pandora.

Gaia theory and philosophy mate... Though it's not a set religion as such

[StratoNa'vi]

scientifically speaking, we do use energy in our body and my common sense is telling me that we do give back our energy. If you would like to live like people on pandora, respect other beings and nature. Go to the forest for a walk. dont rely on technology, rely on your instincts in nature and youll feel like your on pandora. :D trust me, i tried
Sir, you either gain or lose energy through eating and living, you cannot borrow or return energy.

[Sight]

Sir, you either gain or lose energy through eating and living, you cannot borrow or return energy.
The thought is that when you die, your body no longer uses the nutrients contained within. When a body is buried by the Na'Vi, the natural processes that break down a body disperse the nutrients into the soil as well as among the bacteria that broke down the body in the first place. Furthermore, the Law of Conservation of Energy proves that energy is not created, nor destroyed. It is simply moved. The energy stored within your body (nutrients) would be used by the earth if your body is not embalmed, and you were buried in the wilderness. The idea that all energy is "borrowed" is a scientific truth, as it is never truly "owned".

[Muiä]

The thought is that when you die, your body no longer uses the nutrients contained within. When a body is buried by the Na'Vi, the natural processes that break down a body disperse the nutrients into the soil as well as among the bacteria that broke down the body in the first place. Furthermore, the Law of Conservation of Energy proves that energy is not created, nor destroyed. It is simply moved. The energy stored within your body (nutrients) would be used by the earth if your body is not embalmed, and you were buried in the wilderness. The idea that all energy is "borrowed" is a scientific truth, as it is never truly "owned".

This sounds about right to me. "Borrowing" is just another word for the process. You are born of energy, via the nutrients of your mother and genes of your parents. This energy would have come from the sun in it's most basic form, getting absorbed by plants, then animals. This energy is then recycled, wether through the death of a living creature, or excretion. There's probably other processes but the sun is the main one. So really "Borrowing" makes total sense as you will use energy from past creatures or sources and pass it on when you die. Reminds me of The Lion King and the circle of life!