Quaritch in Avatar 2?

[BlueDreams]

Hmm, I'm not sure if this is in the right sub-forum, or if this topic wasn't already created, but here goes...

During a short interview with Entertainment Weekly, Stephen Lang (Miles Quaritch) said:

"You think those two arrows in my chest are going to stop me from coming back? Nothing's over so long as they've got my DNA." What do you guys think about this? Do you like the idea of Quaritch coming back? If he did, do you think he would have changed?


Source: Movie Talk: James Cameron Planning 'Avatar' Trilogy (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-avatar-trilogy.html)
(Yahoo FTW :p)

[Demiurgos]

Definitely would love to see him back again !
He gives a much needed "contrast" to the whole movie.
If he is back, and I believe he'll be back :D , he'll be even meaner than he was before !

[BlueDreams]

Definitely would love to see him back again !
He gives a much needed "contrast" to the whole movie.
If he is back, and I believe he'll be back :d , he'll be even meaner than he was before !
Interesting... Even more evil? Is that even possible? :/



PS: Yay for my 100th post. :D

[Demiurgos]

Believe me my friend, everything is possible ... at least with Cameron on helm !!! :D

[BlueDreams]

Believe me my friend, everything is possible ... at least with Cameron on helm !!! :D
True... It's also possible that Grace will return...

I was thinking that more humans would come and resurrect his DNA. That's the only possible way I see to revive him.

But if Quaritch will be back, what do you think he will do? ...Simply go to the Na'vi and attack? Or something more elaborate?

[Demiurgos]

To tell you the truth, we can only guess what ideas Cameron could come up with.
I don't know .... everything is possible .... he may even come back and use one of the Na'Vi avatar boddies to infiltrate Omaticaya and eliminate Jake ....

[BlueDreams]

To tell you the truth, we can only guess what ideas Cameron could come up with.
I don't know .... everything is possible .... he may even come back and use one of the Na'Vi avatar boddies to infiltrate Omaticaya and eliminate Jake ....
Hey, that's a really cool idea! I can almost imagine how Quaritch uses an Avatar to infiltrate the Na'vi. Although, he would probably be recognizable. Unless he had surgery or something. :P

[Demiurgos]

Thanks ! :)

Quaritch could also use a special unit of marines to do that for him, like Jake did it at first.
They can infiltrate other clans and eventually turn them against Omaticaya ....

Yes, as I said there is a much space to put on a great plot.

[BlueDreams]

Thanks ! :)

Quaritch could also use a special unit of marines to do that for him, like Jake did it at first.
They can infiltrate other clans and eventually turn them against Omaticaya ....

Yes, as I said there is a much space to put on a great plot.
Another good idea. :)
Whatever ha does, though, I hope it will be as great as the first Avatar. I mean, part of what made Avatar so awesome was the idea of the 'linking' and 'using the avatars'. How will Avatar 2 fare without that?
Of course, as you said, other characters may use avatars. :D

[Avonaco76]

if they bring Quarritch and Grace back, they must bring Trudy back...I wanna see her as a Na'vi! :) *little hearts appear over his head*

[Neytiri'Makto]

If the humans are able to make avatars, I don't think there would be a problem with cloning Quaritch. He might have even stored his DNA somewhere, just in case. Even the memories he had could probably be stored in a hard drive somewhere lol. If the humans had the technology to transfer someone's consciousness into an avatar, I am sure they have some way of storing someone's memories as well. Quaritch is just too cool to go out so soon. I almost wish he didn't die, but we'll see what happens...

[Human No More]

If he is back, it will completely ruin the entire point of his death, which was very symbolic (how Neytiri kills him with Eytukan's bow, and even how he says "Nothing's over while I'm still breathing")

[BlueDreams]

If the humans are able to make avatars, I don't think there would be a problem with cloning Quaritch. He might have even stored his DNA somewhere, just in case. Even the memories he had could probably be stored in a hard drive somewhere lol. If the humans had the technology to transfer someone's consciousness into an avatar, I am sure they have some way of storing someone's memories as well. Quaritch is just too cool to go out so soon. I almost wish he didn't die, but we'll see what happens...
Yes, exactly. Lol, hard drive. Well, it could be possible. Who knows what they will have in a hundred years.
Quaritch was cool. But then, all the baddies usually die (sooner or later), so I wouldn't hang on to him.

[BlueDreams]

If he is back, it will completely ruin the entire point of his death, which was very symbolic (how Neytiri kills him with Eytukan's bow, and even how he says "Nothing's over while I'm still breathing")
I wouldn't really want him to return either, mostly because he'll probably kill someone if he does. Or cause as much chaos as possible. Still, James Cameron gets to decide. :)

[BlueDreams]

if they bring Quarritch and Grace back, they must bring Trudy back...I wanna see her as a Na'vi! :) *little hearts appear over his head*
Unfortunately, I don't see how they could bring Trudy back. Unless they had stored her DNA somewhere earlier.

[Demiurgos]

I believe they store everybody's DNA, I mean RDA, military and govt., at least for the people which they believe may be an asset for them.

[chawk1993]

If Quarich does come back from the dead the reason for it had better be good.

[Demiurgos]

The reason is : he is a perfect bad guy !

[BlueDreams]

If Quarich does come back from the dead the reason for it had better be good.


The reason is : he is a perfect bad guy !

Ha ha, yes, that's a pretty good reason. But if he does come back, he will probably be worse than ever. And last time he almost killed Jake and Neytiri. So... :nconfused:

[Shcookie]

Hmm, I'm not sure if this is in the right sub-forum, or if this topic wasn't already created, but here goes...

During a short interview with Entertainment Weekly, Stephen Lang (Miles Quaritch) said:
What do you guys think about this? Do you like the idea of Quaritch coming back? If he did, do you think he would have changed?


Source: Movie Talk: James Cameron Planning 'Avatar' Trilogy (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-avatar-trilogy.html)
(Yahoo FTW :p)


Hmm, that's really interesting. And cloning is always a good and realistic way to bring someone "back from the dead".

[Demiurgos]

Ha ha, yes, that's a pretty good reason. But if he does come back, he will probably be worse than ever. And last time he almost killed Jake and Neytiri. So... :nconfused:

:)

I really expect him to be even more meaner, of course I would not like to see him hurt Jake or Neytiri.

[Txontirea]

I don't want him to come back, it would feel as if James had gone down the entire "Alien" series route, bringing the characters back, killing them, bringing them back. It would lose all its powerful emotions. No. Quaritch shouldn't come back. Parker Selfridge on the other hand....Hmm...

[jeffro_jones]

I agree completely that Quaritch should not return. I really don't like the idea of bringing characters back just for the sake of bringing them back. It defeats the whole purpose of good winning over evil.

Although I don't think that any of the 'evil' characters were portrayed very well in Avatar (nor did they need to be really,) one thing that I did notice was that all of the characters were a little bit too complex to be truly evil. Really they were just doing their job - while being totally blind to anything outside of their short sighted vision. You want evil - you need a purpose-built character like Palpatine. There were no scenes in Star Wars where Palpatine considers a stick versus a carrot, nor did Sauron worry about the corporation's image.

So my point is that we certainly have an unending supply of short sighted, selfish yet amazingly driven characters to choose from here on earth - none of which I really want to get to know any better (think Parker from Aliens.) Evil is a force, we just need to know that it is there - we don't need to get to know it personally.

Having said all of that - I don't see why Avatar 2 has to be so blatantly obvious (like Alien and Aliens,) where the corporation has to keep coming back for more. There are so many other types of evil out there that we can work with: evil on the planet (think another race on the moon that we have not seen,) evil on a neighbouring planet, eywa can have an arch enemy (of her equal,) that sends it's 'evil race' against the Na'vi. Or maybe evil within the Na'vi. Does it really have to be that damn corporation again.

Yes we expect the corporation to come back many years down the road, but a lot can (and should) happen before that.

[BlueDreams]

I don't want him to come back, it would feel as if James had gone down the entire "Alien" series route, bringing the characters back, killing them, bringing them back. It would lose all its powerful emotions. No. Quaritch shouldn't come back. Parker Selfridge on the other hand....Hmm...


I agree completely that Quaritch should not return. I really don't like the idea of bringing characters back just for the sake of bringing them back. It defeats the whole purpose of good winning over evil.

Although I don't think that any of the 'evil' characters were portrayed very well in Avatar (nor did they need to be really,) one thing that I did notice was that all of the characters were a little bit too complex to be truly evil. Really they were just doing their job - while being totally blind to anything outside of their short sighted vision. You want evil - you need a purpose-built character like Palpatine. There were no scenes in Star Wars where Palpatine considers a stick versus a carrot, nor did Sauron worry about the corporation's image.

So my point is that we certainly have an unending supply of short sighted, selfish yet amazingly driven characters to choose from here on earth - none of which I really want to get to know any better (think Parker from Aliens.) Evil is a force, we just need to know that it is there - we don't need to get to know it personally.

Having said all of that - I don't see why Avatar 2 has to be so blatantly obvious (like Alien and Aliens,) where the corporation has to keep coming back for more. There are so many other types of evil out there that we can work with: evil on the planet (think another race on the moon that we have not seen,) evil on a neighbouring planet, eywa can have an arch enemy (of her equal,) that sends it's 'evil race' against the Na'vi. Or maybe evil within the Na'vi. Does it really have to be that damn corporation again.

Yes we expect the corporation to come back many years down the road, but a lot can (and should) happen before that.

I don't want him to return, either. Not really, anyways. He died for good. And like was quoted, the sequel should take a different path. Bringing back Quaritch would be the obvious thing to do. But, I also heard that Cameron mentioned bringing back Grace...

[Pascoe]

This is just an idea...In other threads people have been discussing maybe in A2 Jake or Neytiri might have to somehow work "human" avatars so they could walk around Earth and blend in. If they could make human navi hybrids then why not just normal human avatars. Think about it, back on earth the evil uses it could be put to use to - think Surrogates with Bruce Willis. So my point is this -

what if the Quaritch we saw in A1 was actually a human avatar that looked just like Quaritch. He could be like offsite from Hell's gate linked up to a unit. This would mean that technically he isnt coming back from the dead, which so many people are against. From all his sayings and stuff maybe they're hints that "it aint over even if he is killed". Maybe it is just me but when he has the arrows sticking out from him he doesnt seem altogether...defeated. To me he sort of seems to be sneering as if he knows this doesnt mean it is over.

It would also bring to light more characterstics for him...we'd learn he wasnt all gun ho kill kill kill but meticulous in planning and prepared for the worst.

Buuut that's just me and an idea that I reckon would please fans because
A - we get our favourite *** kicking colonel Quaritch back
B - he didnt actually die in A1.

[Secops Chief of Staff]

Perhaps the good colonel may not return in the way we think. In my mind, in the sequel, a small avatar task force will be dispatched to neutralize Eywa before the real massive invasion by Terran forces. The spaceship of the task force may have an AI program, like Halo, and in the spirt of invasion, the representation of the AI is Quaritch, like Cortana as miniature hologram. The AI will have his mannerisms and personality but will be just a program

[yorkshirepudding123]

I agree completely that Quaritch should not return. I really don't like the idea of bringing characters back just for the sake of bringing them back. It defeats the whole purpose of good winning over evil.

Although I don't think that any of the 'evil' characters were portrayed very well in Avatar (nor did they need to be really,) one thing that I did notice was that all of the characters were a little bit too complex to be truly evil. Really they were just doing their job - while being totally blind to anything outside of their short sighted vision. You want evil - you need a purpose-built character like Palpatine. There were no scenes in Star Wars where Palpatine considers a stick versus a carrot, nor did Sauron worry about the corporation's image.

So my point is that we certainly have an unending supply of short sighted, selfish yet amazingly driven characters to choose from here on earth - none of which I really want to get to know any better (think Parker from Aliens.) Evil is a force, we just need to know that it is there - we don't need to get to know it personally.

Having said all of that - I don't see why Avatar 2 has to be so blatantly obvious (like Alien and Aliens,) where the corporation has to keep coming back for more. There are so many other types of evil out there that we can work with: evil on the planet (think another race on the moon that we have not seen,) evil on a neighbouring planet, eywa can have an arch enemy (of her equal,) that sends it's 'evil race' against the Na'vi. Or maybe evil within the Na'vi. Does it really have to be that damn corporation again.

Yes we expect the corporation to come back many years down the road, but a lot can (and should) happen before that.

I don't think that any of the 'evil' characters are truly evil, more mislead. The 'evil' characters only do what they do because they believe that it is for the greater good. The whole of the human race revolves around Unobtaniun and they would kill a primitive alien species if they get their own way, but only as a last reaort.
If the humans are truly evil then they could have bombed the whole planet as soon as they got there and killed all of the Na'vi without a seconds thought, but instead they created Avatars, set up schools and attempted to make the Na'vi leave their homes through trading. The humans resorted to violance when they realised that they had nothing the Na'vi wanted.

I found this on wikipedia:

In 2006, Cameron stated that if Avatar were successful, he hoped to make two sequals to the film.[/URL] In 2010, he said the film's widespread success confirmed that he will. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29#cite_note-carroll2006-242) The prospect of sequels was something he planned from the start, going so far as to include certain scenes in the film for future story followups. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29#cite_note-carroll2006-242) Cameron said he wants to make the sequel "cheaper and faster" and that the story will be a continuation of the characters introduced in Avatar.
Though plots for future sequels have not been laid out yet, Cameron stated that they are going to widen the universe while exploring other moons of Polyphemus. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29#cite_note-3D-240) The first sequel would continue to follow the characters of Jake and Neytiri. Cameron implied that the humans would return as the antagonists of the story. "I expect that those nasty humans didn't go away forever," he said. Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana have signed on to reprise their roles in future sequels, and Stephen Lang, who played Colonel Miles Quaritch, believes his character could make a return: "You think those two arrows in my chest are going to stop me from coming back?" Lang told Entertainment Weekly, "Nothing's over so long as they've got my DNA." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29#cite_note-244) In late February 2010, Sigourney Weaver, who played Dr. Grace Augustine, announced the possibility of her return for a sequel in an interview for the Le Grand Journal TV Show in Paris.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29#cite_note-246"]
When being interviewed by AP on the red carpet of the, Cameron stated "if I were to start Avatar 2 tomorrow, it would still be three years away.

I know that wikipedia can't always be trusted but I thought that it was worth sharing.

[HufweMakto]

I don't think that any of the 'evil' characters are truly evil, more mislead. The 'evil' characters only do what they do because they believe that it is for the greater good. The whole of the human race revolves around Unobtaniun and they would kill a primitive alien species if they get their own way, but only as a last reaort.
If the humans are truly evil then they could have bombed the whole planet as soon as they got there and killed all of the Na'vi without a seconds thought, but instead they created Avatars, set up schools and attempted to make the Na'vi leave their homes through trading. The humans resorted to violance when they realised that they had nothing the Na'vi wanted.

I found this on wikipedia:

In 2006, Cameron stated that if Avatar were successful, he hoped to make two sequals to the film.[/URL] In 2010, he said the film's widespread success confirmed that he will. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29#cite_note-carroll2006-242) The prospect of sequels was something he planned from the start, going so far as to include certain scenes in the film for future story followups. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29#cite_note-carroll2006-242) Cameron said he wants to make the sequel "cheaper and faster" and that the story will be a continuation of the characters introduced in Avatar.
Though plots for future sequels have not been laid out yet, Cameron stated that they are going to widen the universe while exploring other moons of Polyphemus. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29#cite_note-3D-240) The first sequel would continue to follow the characters of Jake and Neytiri. Cameron implied that the humans would return as the antagonists of the story. "I expect that those nasty humans didn't go away forever," he said. Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana have signed on to reprise their roles in future sequels, and Stephen Lang, who played Colonel Miles Quaritch, believes his character could make a return: "You think those two arrows in my chest are going to stop me from coming back?" Lang told Entertainment Weekly, "Nothing's over so long as they've got my DNA." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29#cite_note-244) In late February 2010, Sigourney Weaver, who played Dr. Grace Augustine, announced the possibility of her return for a sequel in an interview for the Le Grand Journal TV Show in Paris.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29#cite_note-246"]
When being interviewed by AP on the red carpet of the, Cameron stated "if I were to start Avatar 2 tomorrow, it would still be three years away.

I know that wikipedia can't always be trusted but I thought that it was worth sharing.

Technically speaking, this is Stephan Lang saying this, not an actual confirmation. I highly doubt Colonel Quaritch will be returning, though having him a la Terminator/cloning might be a possibility, but I highly doubt he will be coming back.

But I would note that Grace Augustine might be coming back, if you've ever read the original scriptment.

[jeffro_jones]

I don't think that any of the 'evil' characters are truly evil, more mislead. The 'evil' characters only do what they do because they believe that it is for the greater good. The whole of the human race revolves around Unobtaniun and they would kill a primitive alien species if they get their own way, but only as a last reaort.
If the humans are truly evil then they could have bombed the whole planet as soon as they got there and killed all of the Na'vi without a seconds thought, but instead they created Avatars, set up schools and attempted to make the Na'vi leave their homes through trading. The humans resorted to violance when they realised that they had nothing the Na'vi wanted.
...


Hmm. I think that I might have put it a little bit differently, notably - in fact quite differenly. I would have thought that the 'evil' characters (specifically to Avatar - but also generically) are misled as you say, but that they 'do what they do' for the greater good OF THEMSELF. Just a small but important difference. I honestly don't see much of a difference between forcing the Na'vi to move from their home as I do about them killing them. There is a historic / real example right here in North America (I am from Canada, but I know that it happened all over North America.) First we traded trinkets for furs with aboriginal indians, then when trading becomes less profitable we kicked them out of the more profitable and habitable lands so that we could reap a higher profit and better life for ourself - from their home land. Then we forced them out more and more until we force them onto reservations (for their own good) and abandoned them. We ignored their plight (social and economic) and blamed them for their inability to cope with how we had reengineered their land. We imbued on them as many vices as we could profit from, and ignored the social decay that they then experienced. All the while we blamed them and called them uncivilized or unteachable.

I am by no means and expert on this subject, and to be honest I am not a particularly harsh critic of what we have done (maybe I should be, but I am not.) But it is obvious that there is a similarity between what we have done and what the sky people tried to do in Avatar.

You say that they first tried to trade, then as a last resort bombed them out of their home. I say that in fact the only reason that they did not bomb them out of their homes right away was because (paraphrasing) 'killing the indiginous would provide bad press for the company and it's shareholders", and because it would be really expensive to bomb the whole planet and it would probably make the extraction of unobtanium more difficult and thus costly.

In fact, my guess is that if unobtanium were found closer to the surface, the sky people would in fact have enslaved the Na'vi to mine it for them - under the guise of 'trading' or bringing 'civilization' to the 'blue monkeys'.

So I agree with you that in fact the characters in Avatar are not 'evil' (that was my original hypothesis) but I have to disagree that the sky people were really trying to achieve what was 'for the greater good".

Having said all of this, and gone on with my diatribe, I wonder if I were in the sky people's predicament, if I would be doing the same thing as them. I worry that in fact profit means as much to me as it does to the company's shareholders, but I would hope that I would have the morale conviction to know the difference between right and wrong - regardless of potential profit. I can only hope that in my on life (in a smaller way thankfully) that I can make the right decisions and not say that I am doing what is right for the greater good - when in fact it would be for my immediate good.

[Atuma Miatan]

Oooo that sounds interesting, maybe they did store his DNA somewhere and they end up cloning him. His clone is probably 10 times worse than the original Quaritch, comes back to take revenge... That sounds awesome lol. Hoepfully they have Trudy's DNA stored somewhere too, I really want her to come back.

[Tìrol]

I hope he does I liked Quaritch. He was tough as nails.

[Tak'Tukàl]

Hmm, I'm not sure if this is in the right sub-forum, or if this topic wasn't already created, but here goes...

During a short interview with Entertainment Weekly, Stephen Lang (Miles Quaritch) said:
What do you guys think about this? Do you like the idea of Quaritch coming back? If he did, do you think he would have changed?


Source: Movie Talk: James Cameron Planning 'Avatar' Trilogy (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-avatar-trilogy.html)
(Yahoo FTW :p)


DNA? Makes since.


Unfortunately, I don't see how they could bring Trudy back. Unless they had stored her DNA somewhere earlier.

Hair brush, Blue. Never underestimate the hairbrush.

[Na'vi worrior]

I believe that trudy and grace have a strong chance of coming back because in a interview "grace said she didn't die she was with eywa" so her spirit is still there but weak and I believe Trudy can come back because her plane crashed on pandora so therefore her spirit has to be with eywa also so I believe that grace will come back in her avatar body but I'm not sure how Trudy will maybe grace will make her an avatar? How does that sound?

[Tak'Tukàl]

Who knows, ma tsmukan. Who knows...

[Na'vi worrior]

How did you learn the na'vi language tak'tukan

[madman]

How did you learn the na'vi language tak'tukan

www.learnnavi.org
www.navilator.com

[Tak'Tukàl]

www.learnnavi.org
Navilator - The online Na'vi Translator (http://www.navilator.com)

AVATAR
An Activists Survival Guide
and
AVATAR (the movie)

[yorkshirepudding123]

Oooo that sounds interesting, maybe they did store his DNA somewhere and they end up cloning him. His clone is probably 10 times worse than the original Quaritch, comes back to take revenge... That sounds awesome lol. Hoepfully they have Trudy's DNA stored somewhere too, I really want her to come back.

I hope Quaritch comes back. I have a suspicion that the Quaritch we know could have been a clone and the original will be in the second film, anybody else think this? One way or another, I want Quaritch to be in the second film.

[Sempu]

Please, no. Cloning is the ultimate sci-fi cliche. It gives me nightmares to think about it.

Cameron delivered one bad guy that got our attention, I trust him to be able to deliver another.

[Draug]

I like the idea of Quarritch coming back by some sort of DNA back-up, but as much as we miss certain characters (Tsu'tey, QQ), not everyone should make a comeback from death. It would reduce the impact of their initial deaths, sort of belittle the meaning of their sacrifice. If characters die but all of them do comebacks, it takes off the edge from the whole thing, like "we die, it happens, but it's ok since we'll be back in next the chapter anyway". That'd be kinda lame.

[yorkshirepudding123]

I like the idea of Quarritch coming back by some sort of DNA back-up, but as much as we miss certain characters (Tsu'tey, QQ), not everyone should make a comeback from death. It would reduce the impact of their initial deaths, sort of belittle the meaning of their sacrifice. If characters die but all of them do comebacks, it takes off the edge from the whole thing, like "we die, it happens, but it's ok since we'll be back in next the chapter anyway". That'd be kinda lame.

I never though of it like that but you're right.

[Pandora Wanderer]

hold the phone people. wat if he did come back got into an avatar body and lead like a clan of outsider Na'Vi with the help of humans in a full out war with the Na"Vi clans. that would be nuts

[yorkshirepudding123]

hold the phone people. wat if he did come back got into an avatar body and lead like a clan of outsider Na'Vi with the help of humans in a full out war with the Na"Vi clans. that would be nuts

In the game there are Na'vi who have been kicked out of their clan and have become savages, almost animal like. What if Quaritch used Na'vi savages?

[Pandora Wanderer]

In the game there are Na'vi who have been kicked out of their clan and have become savages, almost animal like. What if Quaritch used Na'vi savages?
that would be awesome

[Colonel Quaritch]

He never died anyway.

[Draug]

He never died anyway.
"Don't look so smug... I know what you're thinking, but Pandora was MERELY A SETBACK!"
Sorry, I had to, this always comes to my mind when discussing character comebacks... Half a cookie to anyone who gets the joke (only half a cookie since it's an easy one if you play The game).

End of off-topic, pardon me.

[madman]

Wow...

[CiaphasCain]

Quaritch As A Navi!

Make it happen! I wanna see Humans and Na'vi teaming up to fight off Necrons and Orks!

[Draug]

Wow...
Ding ding ding, here's your half a cookie :3

[Gantros]

I say Quaritch will be resurrected as a standalone Avatar (not requiring a pilot) based on his DNA and psychological profile and programmed to specifically target Jake.

[Pandora Films]

First off im totally against him returning, but if they do they must explain WHY they bring him back. That would be the most important thing they do for this movie they have to go into detail why they bring him back.

[RDA Trooper]

oh god, they can make avatars, they also can recreate quaritch. i would like to see that.

[marine]

well,if grace comes back bring quaritch back too =D

[marine]

Mass effect 2 lazarus project anyone?:nsmile:

[DIIl]

no.. that would be idiotic.. Just bring people back from the dead? over and over and over and over...

idiotic...

[Tu'te]

No, let's keep turning the creative wheels and bring 'new life' to Pandora please!

EDIT: fo = of

[phelion]

Quaritch could have been using an avatar body himself, having been scared of leaving the base since his "day one" injury.

[James of terra]

Hey he could be cloned??? I don't know if I like this idea or not, well if it is done right it would be ok.

[KifkeyCrunchies]

Quaritch As A Navi!

Make it happen! I wanna see Humans and Na'vi teaming up to fight off Necrons and Orks!

Hey, You stole my plot!

Kidding, of course... but I was planning to do that. If by Necorns and Orks you mean anti-tech (for everyone else) fanatics who like to glass planets of infidels, heretics and other techy species who are not them.

Avatar!Quaritches words to his men: "It's the damn Covenant."

[Foxhound]

I think that there is a way to bring Quartich back no one here has suggested. What if he didn't die? If you look at the arrow wounds they do not appear to hit his heart. Thus they would probably not be instantly fatal.
Now people Survive Gunshot wounds to the chest and these arrows would be less lethal then a bullet due to the fact that they are sub-sonic and do not leave a hole blood can escape from. When some one is hit by a bullet there is a shock wave on the body from impact that causes as much damage as the bullet itself. Since the Arrow was not flying that fast the ripple effect should not be there.
Also unlike movies most wounds are not instantly fatal. The person may black out from pain or die shortly after but if you look at the casualty reports after a battle there is usually more wounded then dead. Most of the deaths on Pandora probably come from the face that Animals eat what they kill and the ones killed by the Navi are in areas that it takes too long for medics to arrive.
"How would he survive the toxin?"
I have several thoughts
1 Nytiri forgot to coat her arrows that day.
2 Only the tips of the arrows are covered and since the Arrow heads went right through Quartich and into the seat behind him only a little was able to enter his blood stream and was only powerful enough to put him in a coma
3 There was no Nero-toxin and Quartich was trying to scare the new recruits.
4 Quartich had a strong heart and the Nero-toxin has not enough to stop it.

"How would he escape?"
1 His suit's walk back ability kicks in and takes him back to HG.
2 A squad of soldiers who are retreating find him and heal him with there medic. (This far ahead we should be able to cure just about anything. Then they surrender to the Navi and get Quartich back to base by hiding his face and claiming he is wounded.
3 He wakes up a few hours later, uses the suits med-kit to heal himself and is trapped on Pandora.
4 He wakes up from his nap yawns, and goes on a berserker rage because his AMP suit does not have a coffee maker in it.

Thats my thoughts.

[Papi]

I think that there is a way to bring Quartich back no one here has suggested. What if he didn't die? If you look at the arrow wounds they do not appear to hit his heart.

No way. These shots are fatal. Even if the first (side) arrow didn't hit his heart, the second (center) arrow almost certainly ripped open his aorta. He's stone cold dead in 30 seconds - 1 minute max from these injuries.

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[Sanjwale]

Don't forget the toxic poison on the arrows. Beside that. Jake and neytiri where both only 20 metres away and im sure they checked if he was really dead.

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[Foxhound]

Well after wasting WAY too much time on this i found a few loop holes.
After looking at several medical diagrams and putting overlays of the human chest over that picture i have found that the arrows are slightly too low to hit the heart. Also contrary to popular opinion hitting some one in the heart is not instantly fatal. What is fatal is the person quickly bleeding out. However since the arrows are still in the wound they provide a type of plug. (Google the story of the kid who got shot by a nail gun in the heart, its like this on small scale.)
The most important part of surviving a gunshot wound (or arrow wound) is getting the victim to proper medical attention as soon as possible. Chances of survival improve the faster you get the victim in front of a doctor.

Also one of my thoughts about the Toxin was that not enough got into his blood stream to kill him just put him in a coma.

Now His chances of survival are just about 09% and this being how Cameron brings him back are fairly low, However i think this is a better option then having him be cloned or being an Avatar all along.

[Papi]

I can appreciate that you want Quaritch to return in the sequels, but there is ZERO chance that JC will do so by having him survive these injuries. ZERO. If we see him again in human form, it can only be via some sort of flashback sequence that serves the story.

[Lon]

Perhaps he has a twin brother we haven't seen?

[HufweMakto]

I've seen a photomanip of Quaritch as an Avatar, blue skin and stripes and all. Might be interesting speculation to see that in a sequal.

[MarkD]

I just don't see him being in an Avatar body, he just doesn't fit that part. He was cool as a human, and should stay as one.

[federaltrial]

here's my take on it, Quatrich is back, well sort of:

Avatar The Eye of Eywa Chapter 1: VIDEOLOG 436 2157 08 13 TRANSCRIPT, an avatar fanfic - FanFiction.Net (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6948062/1/Avatar_The_Eye_of_Eywa)

[Lionheart]

I really hope he'll stay dead. I prefer a new villain. Perhaps a Na'vi who has a problem with a dreamwalker being Toruk Makto.

[HufweMakto]

I just don't see him being in an Avatar body, he just doesn't fit that part. He was cool as a human, and should stay as one.

Oddly enough the part about Quaritch being an Avatar comes from TvTropes; basically someone thinks it's a good idea. But then again, everyone on TvTropes has a problem with Avatar, yet they have no problem with the watered down adaptation of Avatar The Last Airbender, I mean, The Last Airbender. I leave you at that.

[Lionheart]

Oh God, don't even mention that ****ing movie to me. M. Night Shyamalan single-handedly butchered one of the greatest stories of all time. The creators of the show had to have been stoned when they greenlighted him, they had to have been.