Avatar Blueray/DVD Shipping in 3D ?

[Lon]

Dno if anybody knows this, would it be possible for the film to be rendered in a 3D compatible version on Bluray/DVD or does your TV set need to be 3D compatible ? As far as I know it should be possible as long as the glasses are standardized ...

[Elequin]

From what I have read, will come out on Blu-Ray but the player will need to be 3D compatible.

[Lon]

From what I have read, will come out on Blu-Ray but the player will need to be 3D compatible.

Yayy ! More money to spend ... you gotta love it lol

[Nethox]

thats good news, means theres gonna be alot more movies like this coming out if theire gonna produce the blu-ray technology and sell these devices!

[Lon]

thats good news, means theres gonna be alot more movies like this coming out if theire gonna produce the blu-ray technology and sell these devices!

Thats a positive way to see it another would be that Ill need to buy a second Blueray player apart from my PS3 :P

[Sadao]

Hey here is a talk about the production of the DVD/Blue-Ray disks and it also gives a very rough estimated time line for release.

http://avatarblog.typepad.com/avatar-blog/2009/12/avatar-on-dvd-and-3d-dvd.html?fbid=BLRmJTUz-L5

[Elequin]

Its great how Avatar not only opened new doors to Holywood, but now pioneering that not all movies in 3D need to really be "seat clenchers." I would really like to see more movies like this in 3D.

[Sadao]

I'll admit I haven't seen all that many movies in 3D but from what I have heard it gets to be annoying have things constantly fly at your face. James Cameron stated the "You see in 3D lets put that on the screen." (Very Loose Quote)

[McRawffles]

Thats a positive way to see it another would be that Ill need to buy a second Blueray player apart from my PS3 :P

Hmm.. I wonder if you'd need one. I'd like not to buy one, but the PS3 and Xbox 360 were both quite capable of handling Avatar the game in 3D... and that used the same RealD technology as the movie, so maybe the movie could run in 3D on any blu ray player?
I'm more concerned about TVs :( I'm pretty sure mine isn't 3D capable.

[KalaKuival]

Well actually this 3D blu-ray requires 240 Hz HDTV, so it could show the picture. I dunno about you, but I bought my full HD TV 9 months ago and it doesen't have 240 Hz. So basically I'd have to buy a new TV too:(

[Mikash]

Seems like we all need to buy a new TV more sooner or later because this is future! I doubt that there will be any movies worse than the avatar CG anymore ha'ha

[Elequin]

Really I will do whatever it takes to watch at home on 3D. But what a hassle, I'm sure they will come up with a more affordable way.

[bradosia]

I think 3d television is a bad idea. Expecially when you need to wear glasses. I mean if you could do it without glasses it would be good. But otherwise the glasses seem like another remote to lose under the couch. LOL.

[Avatarfanboy161]

dont know about all of you but i love my 3d projector!!!

[Robert Henry]

-You need a Blu-Ray player with 3D mode (Playstation already got it build in them)
-A 3D HD TV
-Glasses

And thats it.

[THORx14]

Are there even any 3d ready tv's on the market yet?

[Robert Henry]

No, the first ones are out in February

[THORx14]

No, the first ones are out in February
I bet they're going to be about $10,000-$12,000 a piece too.

[Robert Henry]

Well I asked one of the stuff for the prices and they said that the 40 inch SOny is going to cost something like 1300$.

[THORx14]

That seems insanely cheap for a new technology coming out.

[Robert Henry]

Thats what I thought.

70 inches on the other hand is 10.000 $

[~ViperSB1~]

Are there even any 3d ready tv's on the market yet?

Yes, Any 120hz DLP Television Is 3D Ready. As Far As I Know, At Least With Currect Technology, The Only 3D Capable Tv's Are DLP. Which I Find Odd Because Everyone Except Mitsubishi Stopped Making DLP. My Dad Got One Of The Samsung LED DLP Televisions Before They Stopped Making Them And I Have Used It In 3D Hooked Up To My Pc With The Glasses I Got From Seeing Avatar In RealD 3d And My nVidia Steroescopic 3DVision Software.

[Elequin]

Well I asked one of the stuff for the prices and they said that the 40 inch SOny is going to cost something like 1300$.

I hope thats all. Thats sony to, so some generic brands will be even cheaper.
Are you sure the PS3 is 3D capable for the movies?
I know theres an option in the Avatar game for 3D, but i do not know if its different for movies.

[~ViperSB1~]

Yes, Any 120hz DLP Television Is 3D Ready. As Far As I Know, At Least With Currect Technology, The Only 3D Capable Tv's Are DLP. Which I Find Odd Because Everyone Except Mitsubishi Stopped Making DLP. My Dad Got One Of The Samsung LED DLP Televisions Before They Stopped Making Them And I Have Used It In 3D Hooked Up To My Pc With The Glasses I Got From Seeing Avatar In RealD 3d And My nVidia Steroescopic 3DVision Software.

Wanted To Add To This... I Saw Someone Post That The Tv Has To Be 240hz But I Dont Think That Is Correct. The Way 3D Works Is The Glasses Are Polarized Differently On The Right And Left Lenses. When The 3D Movie Is Playing It Displays Two Images, One For The Left Eye And One For The Right. The Polarized Glasses For Instance On The Left Lense Would Keep Your Left Eye From Seeing The Frame For Your Right Eye And Vice Versa. The Tv Has To Be 120hz Or Higher Because They Have Left And Right Eye Frames Running At 60fps Per Second Respectively. In Order To Run The 3D At 24p(film standard) You Would Need 240hz To Run Both Left And Right Frames At 120hz So Therefore I Believe 120hz Would Work But 240hz Would Be Smoother :cool:

[Robert Henry]

Yes I'm sure PS3 is capable.

[Dreamwalker]

Question: In order to get this movie on DVD, do you have to have blueray? Or is that just if you want to watch it in 3D?

[CrashingDoors]

Question: In order to get this movie on DVD, do you have to have blueray? Or is that just if you want to watch it in 3D?

To my knowledge: there won't be a 3D disk until the technology is available--at least not the type of 3D used in this movie. You'd have to have a 3D capable TV and BD player, which aren't available. At least not at a good enough price so that the average family could afford one.

I'm assuming this will be available on both DVD and Blu.

[Elequin]

From what I have heard the 3D will only be available in Bluray

[JForce7]

I have read that the ps3 is forward compatible for 3d (I have never seen this before). Sony reports that all it needs to do is a make new firmware for the ps3 to handle. They are also researching into another type of BR disc that can hold more memory too, well not really new disc, but a different algorithm that allows us to put more data into a BR disc, which means current players just need to know how to read them (decode). Otherwise as far as TV's go, the saying is that you need at least 240hz in order for it work. TV's I know currently with 240hz are samsungs 8000 and 8500 series, but i'm not familiar with 3d specifics. Glasses are a given that you must have a pair.

And yes blu-ray can hold 3d.

[Robert Henry]

Plus:

It's the same technology 3D you are seeing now in the cinema.

[CrashingDoors]

From my post, when I mentioned the 3D technology: I was trying to differentiate between those red/blue glasses. It was my assumption that you can see that kind of (old-school) 3D on any TV or DVD now.

So from what you guys are saying--apparently if you have a TV that has 240hz (whatever that means?) and a PS3, it'll play 3D? That's interesting.

[THORx14]

From my post, when I mentioned the 3D technology: I was trying to differentiate between those red/blue glasses. It was my assumption that you can see that kind of (old-school) 3D on any TV or DVD now.

So from what you guys are saying--apparently if you have a TV that has 240hz (whatever that means?) and a PS3, it'll play 3D? That's interesting.
I think its more than that. Nothing in the world of technology is that simple, or cheap.

[Epsillon]

I think its more than that. Nothing in the world of technology is that simple, or cheap.

I agree, It's obviously a trap.

[Skypeople]

At least tax returns are coming up, right? :P

[~ViperSB1~]

Yeah, I dont even want to think about it. I just bought a big exspensive 240hz LCD tv and I am probably not going to be able to watch 3d on it. Which when Avatar 3D comes out, will make it completely worthless since thats all I am going to watch. :)

[xcrunner08]

I am already saving up the money for the 3D TV lol. Seriously, though, I am. It's the future of technology. Soon, more and more movies will be released in 3D. I am trying to get ahead of the curve :)

[speedfreek]

From what I have read, will come out on Blu-Ray but the player will need to be 3D compatible.

Which by all accounts point to, will be a firmware update for the player, as they're working on the 3D Blu-ray profile and it'll work on any display.

It'd want to, i'm still in SDTV land :p

[JForce7]

Well the 2010 CES is going to be showcasing and introducing a lot of 3d. I will be reading up substantially about news from this event. It seems toshiba will be releasing their own 3d tv's.

Here is the deal with players, 3d will be a feature on newer blu-ray players (and will use a 3d compatible logo), not older ones. These players already have built in chips and their performance cannot be enhanced (which 3d will require). The Ps3 is a separate issue (because it does have a cell processor), it can be firmware upgradeable and since the ps3 itself has not even reached its full potential with current games/blu-ray movies.

[Chatboy 91]

If I'm not mistaken Sony is currently integrating 3D support for the PS3, so those who have a PS3 shouldn't necessarily have to get a new player.

The main issue will be whether or not your TV can support it. You need to have a LCD/LED TV with at least 120Hz refresh rate, or a Plasma TV in order to properly watch 3D film. If the refresh rate is too low, the image wont display properly.

The only other possible issue I can think of is the type of interface used. Newer versions of HDMI can support 3D, but not older versions. Thus, if you have an older TV with the older type of HDMI, it might not support it anyway.

[steinmetz]

If I'm not mistaken Sony is currently integrating 3D support for the PS3, so those who have a PS3 shouldn't necessarily have to get a new player.

The main issue will be whether or not your TV can support it. You need to have a LCD/LED TV with at least 120Hz refresh rate, or a Plasma TV in order to properly watch 3D film. If the refresh rate is too low, the image wont display properly.

thiiiiis would be greaaat!! i got one and so this was good invested in it =)

[silenec]

You need to have a LCD/LED TV with at least 120Hz refresh rate, or a Plasma TV in order to properly watch 3D film.
You need 120Hz/fps input rate, most 120/240/600/xxxHz tv's on the market can only handle 60Hz/fps signal and that's not enough for 3D.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html

[Epsillon]

Yeah, I dont even want to think about it. I just bought a big exspensive 240hz LCD tv and I am probably not going to be able to watch 3d on it. Which when Avatar 3D comes out, will make it completely worthless since thats all I am going to watch. :)

same, we got a nice new TV a couple years ago that I'm sure won't run 3D, even though Avatar is the only thing I want to watch, so we aren't going to be getting a new one. Guess I'll have to settle for the 2D, at least the story and the meanings won't change at all, even if it won't seem like I'm actually there.:(

[irh1905]

3D tv is currently the second most searched thing on Yahoo right now

[Lotus]

Great this is excellent news! Except now i have to go out and buy another player just for the 3D movies I'm sure I will be purchasing in the future. But I think I might wait to see if there are any other 3D movies I like first. THe only interesting one I saw a trailer of was Alice in WOnderland. All the others not really my cup of tea.

[soulofadra6on]

hmm, i can live with only 1 kidney, and a lung...guess i can sell those and get myself a new tv and blu ray player =)

[Lotus]

Haha! You're very dedicated.

[Chatboy 91]

You need 120Hz/fps input rate, most 120/240/600/xxxHz tv's on the market can only handle 60Hz/fps signal and that's not enough for 3D.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html

Ah yes that is correct, I forgot about that issue. I just did a bit more research and you are correct. Because Avatar used Polarizing technology, a polarizing TV or projector is necessary...and I just got a 60" 1080p plasma last year.:(

[steinmetz]

Nvidia GeForce 3D Vision Kit: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubehör

this is available in germany now, but dont think i ll buy:confused:

[Kipkeye'ung]

I have limited knowledge in 3d tech, i admit it. But i think it will depend on the kind of 3d it plans to use. If you buy the blu ray 3d version and they simply have it play like it does in the theatre when you arent wearing the inexpensive polarized glasses then you wouldnt need any additional equipment. The image is from 2 camera's filming the same thing at slightly different angles, like human eyes. If they go one route the disk would contain the images from each seperate camera and have to render it itself, or have the disk contain the overlay image of both camera's and make someone buy some polarized glasses. So i had thought that the best way to sell the 3d version would be to do it the least expensive way for the consumer, sounds wierd, but if you make something more readily available to more people its better then less at a higher cost. There are already 3d movies, albeit far less advanced, that produce 3d with the red/blue glasses. The current tech thats starting to come out for 3d tv's is different then avatar. The new tv's have a processor that turn the 2d image into a faux 3d by copying the image and duplicating it ofset to create a simulated sensation of depth.

[intao]

Face it people, this movie is just a little bit to advanced for your average tv in our current technological age and not to mention our current economy

[sullyjakes14]

true,, !!!

[Slick_42]

If I had an 120Hz monitor...

[Toruk]

So PS3 = yay a new TV time to start saving/ selling my siblings. JK about the kids though.

[Grifff]

-You need a Blu-Ray player with 3D mode (Playstation already got it build in them)
-A 3D HD TV
-Glasses

And thats it.


awesome, i have 2 out of 3

[SBG]

when is dvd coming out?

[Jeremiah]

Face it people, this movie is just a little bit to advanced for your average tv in our current technological age and not to mention our current economy

Agreed. I can live without 3-D for now; just give me some high definition picture and I'm set to go.

[Past Present Fortune]

I'm getting set for the 3D HDTV experience as soon as possible, I've said it before in this forum and I'm saying it again, I just can't live without 3D anymore after seeing Avatar.
I'll be buying a 3d HDTV and a 3D Blu-Ray player as soon as they're available and I have read/watched various reviews for various different 3D HDTV's.

[topgear]

i had been planning on buying a new HDTV for a few months now, only to shelve those plans when I saw Avatar, because I want a 3D capable HDTV. I got the PS3 down so all good.

[Past Present Fortune]

i had been planning on buying a new HDTV for a few months now, only to shelve those plans when I saw Avatar, because I want a 3D capable HDTV. I got the PS3 down so all good.

You're in exactly the same situation as me, I also have a PlayStation 3 so I'm also set there, it's just a waiting game for us now, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE 3D BLU-RAY RELEASE!
I'll still be buying the normal Blu-Ray version as soon as it's released as I'm not mentally capable of waiting for the 3D Blu-Ray release.

[topgear]

You're in exactly the same situation as me, I also have a PlayStation 3 so I'm also set there, it's just a waiting game for us now, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE 3D BLU-RAY RELEASE!
I'll still be buying the normal Blu-Ray version as soon as it's released as I'm not mentally capable of waiting for the 3D Blu-Ray release.

i remember reading the 3D version won't be coming out at the same time as the normal blu-ray, for whatever sodding reason, so like you, i will be buying the normal version as well.

[Hactor]

Actually i think it might be possible to make a fairly cheap, homemade 3d projector setup. Using 2 projectors, with a polarized filter attached to each, at orthogonal angles to each other, focused and calibrated on the exact same area on the wall/screen.

You'd still need to find a way of syncronising the pictures on the projectors, in a way so that they each show their own camera angle, which may, or may not be possible.

Also the projectors would need to be powerful, as a filter would cut a lot of lumens. Or you'd just have to live with a dim picture.

[LOGAN]

3D tvs and 3D blu-ray players are coming in store around summer and the fisrt 3D movies before christmas...so I heard.
I have a hdtv but since a saw Avatar...everything changed
my tv is a good mid-end tv, just enough so I can sell it to my parents to go get a 3DHDTV :ntongue: . Since the technology on the tv gives a better 3D than the theater I just can't wait to see Avatar with that !

[BioLumiNa'vi]

hmmm 3dtv sounds ill

[aizo yurei]

This is why I keep going to see the movie in the theater. I have no idea when I can afford a new 3DHDTV. I'm lucky to have the 42" TV I have. there is no way my wife is gonna let me splurge on this. NO WAY!

[Walas00]

By the end of 2010 ?!
Crap... Well I hope 2D will be released sooner :D

[Grif]

I'm lucky enough to just happen to have a 72" 3D TV (it's rear-projection so you sacrifice it being thin for a much lower price, but I have the space). The only problem is that it is checkboard 3D not sequential which means I have to buy a converter box.

If you have any further questions about 3D please message me directly, I've spent an ungodly amount of time looking into what the hell is going on in the 3D tv world and actually know what I am doing.

[Spartan Tickler]

Will you be able to play it on computers with Blu-ray drives? I would assume it would just be a firmware update similar to the PS3 but I could be wrong, anyone got any knowledge on this issue?

[Jeepha]

The initial release of Avatar for home viewing will take place on Earth Day, April 22, 2010. That release will be utilizing the 'lean and mean' approach by not including any kind of special features or trailers. The point is to allow as much room as possible on the media for the movie. (The more available space, the richer the film can be)

3D will not be available on this release.

In November 2010 they will be publishing versions that incude extended features and 3D compatibility.

[Vauktu]

The initial release of Avatar for home viewing will take place on Earth Day, April 22, 2010. That release will be utilizing the 'lean and mean' approach by not including any kind of special features or trailers. The point is to allow as much room as possible on the media for the movie. (The more available space, the richer the film can be)

3D will not be available on this release.

In November 2010 they will be publishing versions that incude extended features and 3D compatibility.

Where did you hear the November Blu-ray/DVD disk release will be 3D compatible? As far as I know, they have yet to decide on a 3D disk release date.

[Frenchie2002]

Thats a positive way to see it another would be that Ill need to buy a second Blueray player apart from my PS3 :P

The PS3 can play 3D content it will require an update but sony and EA games are already in the process of making 3D games and the signal will be same as movies...