Norm - what happened to him?

[Txur Txe’lan]

So we've all seen this movie at least once...and I bet we've all wondered Where the Heck did Norm Go after his avatar was killed.

He obviously cared enough about the Na'vi and was willing to die...twice for them, but I'm just wondered where on earth he went?

Any good theories?

[Toruk]

There has been a few posts similar. If you watch he is standing there at the end of the movie when they are herding them off of the planet.

[Na'vi Dude]

I think he probably remained on Pandora. Seeing how physical he got in defense of the Na'vi and Pandora itself. I would think that the technology in Hell's Gate, he would be able to create a new Avatar, and perhaps convert his consciousness and soul latter into his new Avatar to live on the planet. Yet that is speculation, until we see the sequel.

[Avatarfanboy161]

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[hello]

but doesnt it take 5 years for it to mature?

[xcrunner08]

Norm is there watching the humans leave. It is assumed e was chosen to stay along with Max and some of the others in the Avatar program I believe.

[Na'vi Dude]

but doesnt it take 5 years for it to mature?

Yeah, but we don't know how far into the future the sequel will take place. Maybe he get's a new Avatar in 5 year's, which with the current tech of the human space travel would take that long or maybe longer. I haven't read through all of the survival guide, which talks about human tech. I'm taking it slow, so this is all speculation.

[Gurnblansten]

Norm is there watching the humans leave. It is assumed e was chosen to stay along with Max and some of the others in the Avatar program I believe. it said some people were chosen to stay on pandora.

[Na'vi Dude]

it said some people were chosen to stay on pandora.

Exactly. So it's safe to assume that the human tech of space travel and Avatar creation would not be diminished when the human's left. In my opinion.

[Elequin]

Yeah, but we don't know how far into the future the sequel will take place. Maybe he get's a new Avatar in 5 year's, which with the current tech of the human space travel would take that long or maybe longer. I haven't read through all of the survival guide, which talks about human tech. I'm taking it slow, so this is all speculation.

I do not believe they have the materials to make new Avatar's there on Pandora.

If you are talking about right after he leaves the mobile, I would assume it's to continue helping the fight, or to rescue his Avatar.
After he stays there, but last we see him he is human, although someone mentioned thinking they saw him in his Avatar at Jake's birthday.

[Avatarfanboy161]

I do not believe they have the materials to make new Avatar's there on Pandora.

If you are talking about right after he leaves the mobile, I would assume it's to continue helping the fight, or to rescue his Avatar.
After he stays there, but last we see him he is human, although someone mentioned thinking they saw him in his Avatar at Jake's birthday.

it really wasnt his birthday, he was insinuating that his human life has ended and that he was born as a Na'vi again, hence the birthday terminology.

[Ethan]

i think that they have enuf smarts and left over suplies that they can fik his avatar

[Na'vi Dude]

I do not believe they have the materials to make new Avatar's there on Pandora.

If you are talking about right after he leaves the mobile, I would assume it's to continue helping the fight, or to rescue his Avatar.
After he stays there, but last we see him he is human, although someone mentioned thinking they saw him in his Avatar at Jake's birthday.

Well If they have a lab, human dna, na'vi dna, then I would say they have the materials. And they have both on Pandora. Though I'm not sure to what tech the Avatar's are made, and if the tech exist on Pandora. Yet I would imagine they would, for it would seem unlikely that if the humans were going to explore Pandora while they were on that moon, they wouldn't have the tech to create the Avatars.

[ElBartoME]

It's not only Norm who was allowed to stay.
Max Patel also was allowed to stay. He didn't have an avatar at all. Wonder what he'll do on Pandora then. Can't imagine that living in his human body makes fun in this atmosphere. Where to get a 'donator body'?

[prime]

Living in the confines of the RDA buildings and venturing out with mask would be just fine. Remember the alternative back on earth, its a prison cell with people killing each other for whatever is in your pockets. Even being able to see a jungle from inside the RDA would be better alternative.

Anyway its just a movie, I'm shocked at how carried away people get, kinda scary. I only like how Avatar brings strong points about whats happening on earth now but many people are getting all caught up in this avatar fantasy so much it seems they believe it to be real and life on earth just isn't worth mentioning. Sad and Sick. Think us Humans need a global wake up call, a big mofo one.

[Txur Txe’lan]

Couple things:

1st: Sorry about this being a duplicate

2nd: The time I was referring to was after Norm's Avatar was killed and he races back out into the jungle.

3rd: my thought was wondering what he was going to do - he wasn't a trained soldier, he had to know he was making a suicide run, but he still was willing to sacrifice his own life for the Na'vi, truly honorable! My question was what did people think happened to his human form.

4th: The sequel (if JC makes it) has been reported to be set right after the end of this movie, I don't believe that Norm would have time to create a new Avatar (nor would I think Hell's Gate would have the required equipment)

And actually this final point is the most important: "prime" you say that people need a wake up call because they wish that they could go to Pandora? People are not getting carried away, I have not read anything (either on paper or the internet) about people abandoning their earth life for the movie. The movie brings hope to people - and is meant to scare - scare us into remembering we only have 1 Earth, and currently we are killing it.

Life on Earth isn't great - and i'm not being a cynic, I'm just stating a fact. Do you want your children to grow up in a world that only knows war, pollution, sickness? I don't - but that's the world we live in. What we need is a global wake up call to protect this world. So before you judge those who wish that this movie was real, look around you at what we live in, and tell me if this is really a better alternative.

[Na'vi Dude]

4th: The sequel (if JC makes it) has been reported to be set right after the end of this movie, I don't believe that Norm would have time to create a new Avatar (nor would I think Hell's Gate would have the required equipment)

Has been reported........which is a key word. Maybe Norm won't have time to have created a new Avatar, maybe he does? It's all speculation until we actually see a sequel. I just have a hard time believing that Hell's Gate wouldn't have the tech to create Avatars. Yet again, it's just speculation and opinion.

[Elequin]

I do not think they have the materials to create an Avatar there, because that is what they do on earth. Plus it takes six years for them to fully mature, so he would have to wait awhile. I see no reason why they could not fix up his Avatar, as far as I know an Avatar cannot die, its just the complications between the user using it.

[Toruk]

If they work like a humanoid robot then in theory they should be able to patch it all up and reboot. In theory.

[Na'vi Dude]

I do not think they have the materials to create an Avatar there, because that is what they do on earth. Plus it takes six years for them to fully mature, so he would have to wait awhile. I see no reason why they could not fix up his Avatar, as far as I know an Avatar cannot die, its just the complications between the user using it.

Here is my confusion. So Avatar's are created between human, and Na'vi dna right? So we know they can make Avatar's on earth, but what would be quicker? Send Na'vi dna to earth from Pandora so they could make Avatar's, or be able to produce them on Pandora themselves. It would make sense they make Avatar's on earth because if the drivers of those said Avatar's are coming from earth to Pandora they could mature on the trip. Yet what of those Avatar drivers already on Pandora? If the drivers who have been on Pandora for awhile have lost theirs somehow, what do they do then? There is an inconsistency here I think.

[Txur Txe’lan]

Here is my confusion. So Avatar's are created between human, and Na'vi dna right? So we know they can make Avatar's on earth, but what would be quicker? Send Na'vi dna to earth from Pandora so they could make Avatar's, or be able to produce them on Pandora themselves. It would make sense they make Avatar's on earth because if the drivers of those said Avatar's are coming from earth to Pandora they could mature on the trip. Yet what of those Avatar drivers already on Pandora? If the drivers who have been on Pandora for awhile have lost theirs somehow, what do they do then? There is an inconsistency here I think.

I think it's a little more complicated than that. The whole process may take longer than 5 years (we only know they mature in the 5 years that it takes to fly there). It goes beyond that though, the research to make them compatible seems to be very complex (there were only a dozen or so bodies there, and you had to think this had been going on for at least say 5 years before Jake got there. So I think that Hell's Gate may not have ENOUGH of the supplies to make what they need.

The theory about Norm's Avatar Body just being fixed, I would think that's not possible either, they are essentially clones, whom live and breath. That's why they always had to make sure they were safe, so I don't think it's possible to "fix" an avatar if it has been killed.

[Grif]

Well if you noticed at the end of the movie not everyone was in an avatar body, he is probably one of them.

[Txur Txe’lan]

Well if you noticed at the end of the movie not everyone was in an avatar body, he is probably one of them.

You see him there as the other humans are being forced to leave...but what I wonder is was he ever able to get back to the fighting, because had he stayed behind he may have been killed by Quaritch (his pod was smashed after all).

But he was also not a trained warrior, so would he have been in more danger as a human than as a Na'vi?

[Inviboi]

Yah at end i see the Norm's avatar standing there and holding the gun. I think he got hes avatar alive again or something.

[HufweMakto]

I'm not so sure I'm the only one who thinks Norm's Avatar is still alive, but I do. My theory for the reason it's not present when they're taking the RDA off of Pandora at the end is because it's being fixed, though I'm pretty sure this theory of mine is going to be shot down by someone. I mean, it's been a day after the final battle, so his Avatar probably wouldn't have been in the best of shape.

The only reason why I'm saying it's alive is because when Norm's Avatar is shot, I noticed on the second viewing he only gets 1-2 bullets in the shoulder, not necessarily a vital region. When he pops out of his pod after the shot, he looked like his was in pain, but not too much as to faint, as I would think someone who's lost his Avatar for good would do. I remember from the early scriptment that there was a guy who had the unpleasent memory of having his Avatar die, and because he witnessed it die while he was in it. Because of this, he was somewhat mentally unstable to the point that Jake's character noticed there was something odd about the way he looked, moved, and acted eventually asking why he was that way. When we see Norm, he doesn't appear to be unstable when he gets out of his pod, just shakened, but not in any kind of serve problems. The last thing we see him do is grab a gun and exopack (and a first aid I presume) and run into the jungle; probably looking for his Avatar body. Besides as I recall, the Colonel had noted that the Na'vi are very hard to kill, so a bullet is not going to be instant death for an Avatar body, in my opinion.

Sorry for the long post, but I felt like I needed to say something.

[Inviboi]

I'm not so sure I'm the only one who thinks Norm's Avatar is still alive, but I do. My theory for the reason it's not present when they're taking the RDA off of Pandora at the end is because it's being fixed, though I'm pretty sure this theory of mine is going to be shot down by someone. I mean, it's been a day after the final battle, so his Avatar probably wouldn't have been in the best of shape.

The only reason why I'm saying it's alive is because when Norm's Avatar is shot, I noticed on the second viewing he only gets 1-2 bullets in the shoulder, not necessarily a vital region. When he pops out of his pod after the shot, he looked like his was in pain, but not too much as to faint, as I would think someone who's lost his Avatar for good would do. I remember from the early scriptment that there was a guy who had the unpleasent memory of having his Avatar die, and because he witnessed it die while he was in it. Because of this, he was somewhat mentally unstable to the point that Jake's character noticed there was something odd about the way he looked, moved, and acted eventually asking why he was that way. When we see Norm, he doesn't appear to be unstable when he gets out of his pod, just shakened, but not in any kind of serve problems. The last thing we see him do is grab a gun and exopack (and a first aid I presume) and run into the jungle; probably looking for his Avatar body. Besides as I recall, the Colonel had noted that the Na'vi are very hard to kill, so a bullet is not going to be instant death for an Avatar body, in my opinion.

Sorry for the long post, but I felt like I needed to say something.

I have to agree with you :)

[Txur Txe’lan]

HufweMakto you bring up some good points - I am still looking for an older script so I can read it but I can't find one (anybody know where i can find one?).

The Na'vi bodies are hard to kill, but the Avatar ones may not be as hard. Remember they also have Human DNA in them, and this could possibly weaken them during fighting.

Also if they are similar to humans in body structure two shots to the shoulder could get an artery and Norm's Avatar could "bleed out" and die. Also remember the Avatars are linked via your brain to you (like a human joystick) so if your shot, your going to feel pain. It's going to hurt.

I don't know if enough humans would be left behind to fix an avatar, but maybe Ewya could help heal the Avatar, although as Jake points out - all energy is borrowed and must one day be returned.

[HufweMakto]

HufweMakto you bring up some good points - I am still looking for an older script so I can read it but I can't find one (anybody know where i can find one?).

The Na'vi bodies are hard to kill, but the Avatar ones may not be as hard. Remember they also have Human DNA in them, and this could possibly weaken them during fighting.

Also if they are similar to humans in body structure two shots to the shoulder could get an artery and Norm's Avatar could "bleed out" and die. Also remember the Avatars are linked via your brain to you (like a human joystick) so if your shot, your going to feel pain. It's going to hurt.

I don't know if enough humans would be left behind to fix an avatar, but maybe Ewya could help heal the Avatar, although as Jake points out - all energy is borrowed and must one day be returned.

I did read the old scriptment, a while ago, but I do remember there was a character who served many of the functions that the character of Max Patel did in the final movie; this guy was an Avatar driver who kinda fell into depression and got his Avatar killed, after the death of his Na'vi girlfriend though. Having it killed actually messed with his mind, as I would have to point out, they are "downloading" your mind and soul of sorts into an artificial body there are going to be heavy risks all over the place. One that is addressed in the movie is the driver's body degrading, like what we saw with Jake's body. I would think the shock of death would be protentially unhealthy for the driver, possibly mentally. Like with the Avatar driver in the original script, he was described as being emotionally damaged as well, though the scriptment atributed this more to him killing his Avatar.

[unil_mi_tokx]

I speculate that they brought his Avatar before Eywah and transferred him from his human form into his body. Yes, his Avatar was killed, but Eywah could do anything, right? Just a thought.

[Neytiri.]

I'm not so sure I'm the only one who thinks Norm's Avatar is still alive, but I do. My theory for the reason it's not present when they're taking the RDA off of Pandora at the end is because it's being fixed, though I'm pretty sure this theory of mine is going to be shot down by someone. I mean, it's been a day after the final battle, so his Avatar probably wouldn't have been in the best of shape.

The only reason why I'm saying it's alive is because when Norm's Avatar is shot, I noticed on the second viewing he only gets 1-2 bullets in the shoulder, not necessarily a vital region. When he pops out of his pod after the shot, he looked like his was in pain, but not too much as to faint, as I would think someone who's lost his Avatar for good would do. I remember from the early scriptment that there was a guy who had the unpleasent memory of having his Avatar die, and because he witnessed it die while he was in it. Because of this, he was somewhat mentally unstable to the point that Jake's character noticed there was something odd about the way he looked, moved, and acted eventually asking why he was that way. When we see Norm, he doesn't appear to be unstable when he gets out of his pod, just shakened, but not in any kind of serve problems. The last thing we see him do is grab a gun and exopack (and a first aid I presume) and run into the jungle; probably looking for his Avatar body. Besides as I recall, the Colonel had noted that the Na'vi are very hard to kill, so a bullet is not going to be instant death for an Avatar body, in my opinion.

Sorry for the long post, but I felt like I needed to say something.

yah i think it will end up alive to, for some reason in the end you see norm, and then you see an avatar wearing, human cloths?, it might just be another scientist but it was kinda confusing lol

[Txur Txe’lan]

yah i think it will end up alive to, for some reason in the end you see norm, and then you see an avatar wearing, human cloths?, it might just be another scientist but it was kinda confusing lol

I'm going to have to look for this Avatar, because I don't remember seeing that one (oh well next Friday is IMAX 3D anyway...)

Quick note about Ewya: JC actually played an interesting part in this - Ewya did not save Grace because her wounds were too great...to me this seemed to have some very deep religious connections (many people pray that loved ones will be saved, but what kind of life would they have).

Ewya would only transfer Norm into his avatar body if it would be beneficial to Pandora and Norm, she respects the balance of nature.

[HufweMakto]

That Avatar you see at the end is not Norm's. However he might be present in the end ceremony scene, but that's just me hoping for his Avatar to make a come-back.

[Tsyal Makto]

Ewya would only transfer Norm into his avatar body if it would be beneficial to Pandora and Norm, she respects the balance of nature.

And he was, he was willing to die for Pandora - he's definitely worthy to recieve his avatar form.

PS - New here!:cool:

[Txur Txe’lan]

And he was, he was willing to die for Pandora - he's definitely worthy to recieve his avatar form.

PS - New here!:cool:

He certainly was willing to die for Pandora, but his avatar may have also been gravely injured.

Remember the only reason they accept Jake is because he is a "warrior" and they have never met one before which is why they wanted to learn his ways, he was willing to learn, not just to be there, and Ewya personally gave him her approval.

[HufweMakto]

He certainly was willing to die for Pandora, but his avatar may have also been gravely injured.

Remember the only reason they accept Jake is because he is a "warrior" and they have never met one before which is why they wanted to learn his ways, he was willing to learn, not just to be there, and Ewya personally gave him her approval.

There are quite a few fanfics online were Norm is taught to become a warrior because he wants in to the Omaticaya just like Jake. The possibilities are out there to speculate, and any good fandom has it's share of speculation.

[Afkeu]

I'm not so sure I'm the only one who thinks Norm's Avatar is still alive, but I do. My theory for the reason it's not present when they're taking the RDA off of Pandora at the end is because it's being fixed, though I'm pretty sure this theory of mine is going to be shot down by someone. I mean, it's been a day after the final battle, so his Avatar probably wouldn't have been in the best of shape.

The only reason why I'm saying it's alive is because when Norm's Avatar is shot, I noticed on the second viewing he only gets 1-2 bullets in the shoulder, not necessarily a vital region. When he pops out of his pod after the shot, he looked like his was in pain, but not too much as to faint, as I would think someone who's lost his Avatar for good would do. I remember from the early scriptment that there was a guy who had the unpleasent memory of having his Avatar die, and because he witnessed it die while he was in it. Because of this, he was somewhat mentally unstable to the point that Jake's character noticed there was something odd about the way he looked, moved, and acted eventually asking why he was that way. When we see Norm, he doesn't appear to be unstable when he gets out of his pod, just shakened, but not in any kind of serve problems. The last thing we see him do is grab a gun and exopack (and a first aid I presume) and run into the jungle; probably looking for his Avatar body. Besides as I recall, the Colonel had noted that the Na'vi are very hard to kill, so a bullet is not going to be instant death for an Avatar body, in my opinion.

Sorry for the long post, but I felt like I needed to say something.
I agree, Norms avatar was not shot in any sort of vital region (assuming Na'vi/Avatars have similar internal anatomy to humans). At the end, when all the humans are leaving, his avatar may have been somewhere safe, healing. It may simply not have been healthy enough for him to link with yet.

[Txur Txe’lan]

I agree, Norms avatar was not shot in any sort of vital region (assuming Na'vi/Avatars have similar internal anatomy to humans). At the end, when all the humans are leaving, his avatar may have been somewhere safe, healing. It may simply not have been healthy enough for him to link with yet.

It you watch, the Avatar takes 3 shots to the upper region (including one that may or may not have been to the heart). The way that Norm falls down and clutches his own chest makes me believe that the Avatar has been killed (Why else would he awake so suddenly?)

However....with the argument that his Avatar is still Alive, perhaps he is running off to protect it, since the RDA will most certainly attempt to finish the job they started, and his would be easily recognizable!

[Leonopteryx]

In the posted fox script he is point blanked by an AMP suit, i think it is safe to say his avatar is dead.

[HufweMakto]

In the posted fox script he is point blanked by an AMP suit, i think it is safe to say his avatar is dead.

I'm still not quite sure that's the final script. It has a lot of different outcomes for what happened in the movie, though it's been posted that the DVD/blu-ray release will restore many of the deleted scenes, I hope that Norm's Avatar survived, mainly because I want to see him in his Avatar for the sequal.

[Lukas]

When Norm went out of the link station wearing his exo-pack, i thought that was convenient for the last scene to happen. Wouldn't want him in there when Quaritch smashes the link control.

[topgear]

i don't know, i'm under the impression that his avatar is gone. on top of that, do you think the na'vi would have transferred Norm's consciousness into his avatar form just like that? i feel like they made an exception for Grace because she was so involved in their village life before, but Norm was in the periphery most of the time.

[HufweMakto]

i don't know, i'm under the impression that his avatar is gone. on top of that, do you think the na'vi would have transferred Norm's consciousness into his avatar form just like that? i feel like they made an exception for Grace because she was so involved in their village life before, but Norm was in the periphery most of the time.

Well the sequal is out there, and many fanfics do speculate on the idea that Norm tries to go through the same initiation that Jake goes through. It would interesting to see how he goes through that.

[IkranTswonyä]

Wasn't Norm in the final scene in avatar form - when all the remaining Hell's Gate staff were boarding the shuttle? Wearing Red and holding a BIG gun?

[Leonopteryx]

Wasn't Norm in the final scene in avatar form - when all the remaining Hell's Gate staff were boarding the shuttle? Wearing Red and holding a BIG gun?

no norm is clearly shown next to max patel in the final scene
:p image removed, sowee.

[Txur Txe’lan]

That is a different "Avatar" that you see -and according to the script, you don't know who stays - NORM may not actually have been allowed to stay...which would pose a new problem, what happens if NORM was forced to go back...I don't think it would be the safest place for him to spend 5 years!

[achilles]

It's not only Norm who was allowed to stay.
Max Patel also was allowed to stay. He didn't have an avatar at all. Wonder what he'll do on Pandora then. Can't imagine that living in his human body makes fun in this atmosphere. Where to get a 'donator body'?

Eywa will provide :)

[achilles]

He certainly was willing to die for Pandora, but his avatar may have also been gravely injured.

Remember the only reason they accept Jake is because he is a "warrior" and they have never met one before which is why they wanted to learn his ways, he was willing to learn, not just to be there, and Ewya personally gave him her approval.

OMG....

1. Norm is ok.

2. Norm's avatar is ok, he got shot in the shoulder, but even humans don't die of such wounds, let alone Na'vi who is connected to the nature and Eywa itself and its healing powers. He does stand in the end when the Hell Gaters are being banished. Conclusion - he is ok. Norm's pod was smashed by Quaritch, but Jake's wasn't. And don't forget that there are dozen more pods in the Hell's Gate. So my guess is that Norm's body is in the pod until Eywa transfers him into his avatar.

3. They didn't accept Jake just because he was a warrior but because he said that "his cup is empty" which means he was willing to learn. Na'vi tried to introduce other people to their ways, but as Mo'at said, "We tried to teach other Sky People our ways, but it is hard to fill a cup which is already full". All the scientists (except Augustine, I presume) thought they knew better than Na'vi, I guess.

4. As for Max, I have no idea :)

[Txur Txe’lan]

OMG....

1. Norm is ok.

2. Norm's avatar is ok, he got shot in the shoulder, but even humans don't die of such wounds, let alone Na'vi who is connected to the nature and Eywa itself and its healing powers. He does stand in the end when the Hell Gaters are being banished. Conclusion - he is ok. Norm's pod was smashed by Quaritch, but Jake's wasn't. And don't forget that there are dozen more pods in the Hell's Gate. So my guess is that Norm's body is in the pod until Eywa transfers him into his avatar.

3. They didn't accept Jake just because he was a warrior but because he said that "his cup is empty" which means he was willing to learn. Na'vi tried to introduce other people to their ways, but as Mo'at said, "We tried to teach other Sky People our ways, but it is hard to fill a cup which is already full". All the scientists (except Augustine, I presume) thought they knew better than Na'vi, I guess.

4. As for Max, I have no idea :)

Norm is fine, yes - however his Avatar is more than likely gone (the wounds sustained appear to be fatal - and in the script they are also said to be fatal).

Jake said his cup was empty - but Eytukan said that they wanted to study him and learn his ways - because he was a warrior - hence why he was accepted. Norm was not a warrior, there was nothing new they could learn from him - he was like Grace, only younger, and slightly different, but still he was just another scientist.

[rejie-7248]

he stays on pandora

[Na'Vi_Thanator12]

Ok. All this discussion about why they can't grow Avatars on Pandora, but I wonder... If they can grow an Avatar from scratch, why can't they just "repair" the one that got shot? It seems to me like they've got the biolab and all the necessary materials. It might be easier to put the Avatar in the tank and do some sciency hocus pocus on it to heal it up to where it can be used again. Right?

[Txur Txe’lan]

Ok. All this discussion about why they can't grow Avatars on Pandora, but I wonder... If they can grow an Avatar from scratch, why can't they just "repair" the one that got shot? It seems to me like they've got the biolab and all the necessary materials. It might be easier to put the Avatar in the tank and do some sciency hocus pocus on it to heal it up to where it can be used again. Right?

The Avatar's are grown, basically like a "test-tube baby" would be grown. It is a living creature (just without a conscious) and that means that after it has been "killed" means it really is dead - you cannot bring back something that has had it's heart stopped.

[HufweMakto]

The Avatar's are grown, basically like a "test-tube baby" would be grown. It is a living creature (just without a conscious) and that means that after it has been "killed" means it really is dead - you cannot bring back something that has had it's heart stopped.

However, in the same script we have seen (assuming that quite a few people on this site have done so), it's said that Grace's Avatar was shot. So, perhaps the Avatar can be regernerated or perhaps repaired somewhat, depending on wounds. It's generally assumed that the Na'vi, from what the movie tells us, are very hard to kill. So Avatars, which are just a mix of Na'vi and Human DNA should also be pretty hard to kill. We saw Jake's Avatar go through a lot of abuse, primarily falling down from heights, but still. It shouldn't be too much of an assumption to suggest that the Avatars were created to withstand lots of damage as well, even a bullet wound.

[BioLumiNa'vi]

i didnt like Norm

[Txur Txe’lan]

However, in the same script we have seen (assuming that quite a few people on this site have done so), it's said that Grace's Avatar was shot. So, perhaps the Avatar can be regernerated or perhaps repaired somewhat, depending on wounds. It's generally assumed that the Na'vi, from what the movie tells us, are very hard to kill. So Avatars, which are just a mix of Na'vi and Human DNA should also be pretty hard to kill. We saw Jake's Avatar go through a lot of abuse, primarily falling down from heights, but still. It shouldn't be too much of an assumption to suggest that the Avatars were created to withstand lots of damage as well, even a bullet wound.

Very true - and also the Avatar's are organic beings. So....an injury will heal, in time. But a fatal injury...well there are more complications.

The script is very vague about Grace being shot...which I believe is an excellent way to do it - also Grace's Avatar is described as being very Young (35) - so there is a slight (almost improbable) chance that she has had a SECOND Avatar. Her injuries may not have been as severe either.

[Leequilibrium]

Am I the only one who would find it more interesting if Norm's Avatar WAS killed and he went the same way as the guy who was cut from the final script (the guy who's Avatar had been killed during operation)? It'd be an interesting spin to have Norm sink into some kind of post-death depression and twisted state of mind, living out of an abandoned RDA station, providing some sort of bitter and broken antagonist that the audience could sympathise with. I mean, it'd be sad, but certainly interesting. Just a thought...