View Full Version : Na'vi vs Mongol Warrior.
02-07-2010, 03:42 PM
So I watched Avatar again today and I thought, who would win, the giant hunter or the ruthless horse rider. The mongols lived on their horses and were some of the most efficient fighters in the world. Then there are the ten foot tall Na'vi who are clever and very deadly. Let's just say that the battlefield would be on a desert plain (mongols) with a small tropical jungle in the middle (Na'vi). I'm stuck on which would be deadlier so I'm looking for opinions.
02-07-2010, 05:12 PM
na'vi ftw :)
but really the navi would just win in so many different ways
02-07-2010, 05:32 PM
nice question hehe. but i think it's totally unfair to have a match with Na'vi vs Human. the Na'vi are at a clear advantage ... maybe it would depend on what planet it took place on? lol
02-07-2010, 05:38 PM
Lol, the Na'Vi are like 10ft tall too. It would be so much easier for them to win.
02-07-2010, 05:41 PM
Na'vi would have a major advantage.
02-07-2010, 05:54 PM
Well both the Na'vi and mongols are long distance fighters. A mongol on horseback is able to obliterate foot soldiers with his bow. A Na'vi has a height advantage but at a distance that would make it easy to hit. If it got to close quarters the Na'vi would win. But at a distance I think it's a fair fight. The Na'vi is hard to kill but seems to only carry about three arrows. While the mongol carries about twenty. If the Na'vi uses those arrows And misses it's screwed. Because a mongol will shoot you wherever he wants you to be shot. Oh and the Na'vi could probably smell a mongol from about two miles away.
02-07-2010, 05:57 PM
i'm going to go with the na'vi on this one
02-07-2010, 05:58 PM
Hey that'd make a funny tabletop game! :rotfl:
02-07-2010, 06:21 PM
Well, if the fight was on Pandora the Mongol would collapse in 40 seconds, and die in 4 minutes. So I assume that the fight is on Earth. On Earth, the higher gravity means that the Na'vi is 25% heavier than he or she is accustomed to, but at least both combatants can breath the air.
This looks like a long-distance archery duel, in which case both sides have their own advantages. The Na'vi arrow is HUGE, and the tip is coated with a deadly neurotoxin. If it strikes the Mongol, the Mongol dies. But he or she only has about three arrows, and the strange gravity might throw the aim off. Plus the Mongol is on a horse, and is adept at dodging.
The Mongol's arrows are much lighter and probably not coated with poison. On the other hand, he would have many more of them than the Na'vi. Plus the Na'vi is a huge target.
My money's on the Mongol. If he can evade the three Na'vi arrows, he can then close with the Na'vi and fill him or her with smaller but still deadly arrows of his own.
Having said that, the real power of the Mongol warrior was in their ferocious discipline and highly advanced group tactics and long-range logistics. A single Mongol warrior was very proficient at combat, but likely no more so than a Na'vi would be.
So one Na'vi versus one Mongol, the Mongol has the edge but it could go either way. One hundred Na'vi versus one hundred Mongols, the Mongols curb-stomp the Na'vi.
02-07-2010, 06:32 PM
Exactly. Nothing could stop them. Now the idea of curb stopping makes me think of gears.
So, Marcus or Neytiri.
02-07-2010, 07:32 PM
The Mongol warriors and the Navi would probably become allies and conquer the world :d
YouTube - The Devil's horsemen - The Mongols
YouTube - Mongol, Theatrical Full Trailer
02-07-2010, 10:42 PM
At first I thought this fight was ridiculous, but on second thought, this is actually quite interesting. Now the main issue here is...how many Mongol arrows can a Na'vi take before he/she is down for the count? Though the Na'vi lack armor which is important in a fight like this, I'm sure they're really durable (compared to humans at least). Anyways if this fight took place on Earth, I'd call it 5.5/10 in favor of the Na'vi.
02-08-2010, 06:17 AM
as the posts above says its important where the battle takes place, if its in pandora the mongols cant even get there, what are they gonna do? lol but if somehow they got there they would just die from the poisoned air, and the Na'Vi win either way IMO
Soldier ov Wotan
02-09-2010, 08:20 AM
This is not even a challenge. Na'vi hands down.
02-09-2010, 09:39 AM
Defenitly the na'vi, one of the mongols strength lied in numbers...
plus the na'vi bow would be able to hit from a much longer distance.
what would probaly happen would be that the Na'vi would hide in the jungle and when the mongol came close he would shot him from the shadows.
even in the dessert the navi would have the upper hand. the horses arrent that agile so it would probaly get shot down and on foot the na'vi would be much quicker and stronger and would also be able to shot longer as already mentionet.
generaly I dont think any human pre-machinegun/sniper soldier would be able to take out a Na'vi
02-09-2010, 12:17 PM
Defenitly the na'vi, one of the mongols strength lied in numbers...
Nope. Quite often the Mongols won battles, when they were insanely outnumbered.
I am very impressed with Mongols, and very fascinated by them. Actually, the first time I saw Avatar, I thought of Mongols more than once... such as the horse-clans of the plains... those plains there looked so much like the vast grass plains of Mongolia.
As for wheter Na'vi or Mongols would win... that's a tricky question. I would wish they'd unite and fight together against the common enemy. The human modern western civilisation!!!! :)
Oh, and I can really recommend this book, and the rest of the books in the series: Wolf of the Plains - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_of_the_Plains)
03-10-2010, 02:24 AM
Well there are certain similarities with the Mongols, I thought about it too, although many other peoples are similar, maybe even more.
From what I know, Mongols call themselves "Blue Mongols" and "Children of the Blue Sky". They're also known for their Blue spots: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_spot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_spot)
They call themselves "blue spotted Mongolians". That means they are one of the few truly blue people on earth :-), even if it's just a large spot. Blue is still their most sacred color.
Plus, they traditionally braid their hair, which looks a lot like that of the Na'vi. Do not touch a Mongol’s hair! Mongolia is the classical region of shamanism, and their shamans believe in a World-Tree and other concepts very similar to "Mo'atist Eywaism". They worship “Tengri Etseg” or sky father, and “Ekh Etugen” or mother earth. Their land is still virgin and they still have an animistic reverence for their environment. They're pure nomads with close ties to hunter-gatherer Siberia. "Eytukan" sounds a bit like Ugutey/Ogodei Khan, the Khan whose death saved Europe. "Tsutey" sounds a bit like Yesukey, the father of Genghis Khan. And like the Na'vi who had Toruk for their totem, the Mongols were totem people too. Their main totem was the Wolf. The falcon was another totem (Genghis Khan' flag).
In fact, Genghis Khan and his Mongols are very similar to the Na'vi. The Persian historian Juvaini wrote that Genghis had "cat's eyes". Others mention that he had "light in his eyes". Rashid-al-din wrote that Genghis Khan was amazed when his grandson Kublai Khan did not inherit his eyes, but had small, black eyes instead. Even now some Mongolians have the weirdest eyes, some green, some yellow. His Mongols were probably one of the most lithe and physically fit people on earth. No wonder. They had superhuman eyesight, perfect teeth and extraordinary senses of smell and hearing, besides other amazing physical powers. A Chinese historian described them as being three meters tall and dressed in fish-skins. They're still taller on the average than other Asians I think. And the men are proud of showing their bodies. They wear almost no clothing when wrestling, except some fancy boots.
Armenians called them the "nation of archers". They were truly "stone-cold hunters" of the steppe who actually hunted wolves and antelope with bows and arrows while galloping on horses, as opposed to jungle hunters who don't ride an animal. They still “breathe” prayers on their arrows while shooting and when they’ve killed an animal, they kneel and treat it with the utmost respect, offering thanksgiving prayers to their earth spirits. A Mongol lives and dies on his horse. Hell they actually sleep on their horses. Mongols truly were riders par excellence, and "animal-people" par excellence. They rode and still ride horses, yaks, bactrian camels, cows and they hunt using eagles as well as falcons.
And yeah, Mongolian women are famous for their beauty and strength, maybe not all but some. There was a Mongol tribe called the Ungirat that were famous for their women. Mongol women still ride horses and know how to use bows and arrows. True Amazons.
03-10-2010, 02:45 AM
oh and Mongols also got the wild yell, like the children hooting as they race on their horses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCxiK23Rc6k&feature=related
And they also got their traditional throat-singing or khoomii singing:YouTube - Music of Mongolia 7/7 :Six methods of the khoomii
Part of it involves imitating the sounds of birds and animals and nature in general. Ah, the call of nature, the call of the wild!