View Full Version : Prequel(s) or Sequel(s) ?
I personally would prefer a sequel because I want to see more of Jake and Neytiri ... Im just worried that the scenario for a sequel might be a bit repetitive.
What do you guys think Prequel or Sequel ...
Sequel first then Prequel just like the lord of the rings
Sequel first then Prequel just like the lord of the rings
Or like Starwars .. but lets not mention those prequels ;) lol
Neytiri
12-27-2009, 02:49 AM
Definitely all sequels first, then the prequel, like in Star Wars. Most people, including me, I think would want to see "what happens next?" I also think that creating the prequel before all the sequels will limit the scope of the sequels, and the in-the-moment creativity of the writers. I think letting the sequels inspire the prequel would be better.
KalaKuival
12-27-2009, 03:12 AM
Definitely all sequels first, then the prequel, like in Star Wars. Most people, including me, I think would want to see "what happens next?" I also think that creating the prequel before all the sequels will limit the scope of the sequels, and the in-the-moment creativity of the writers. I think letting the sequels inspire the prequel would be better.
Yea, it's kinda two sided thing. I mean well first of all if i'm not wrong, the Avatar game is basically a prequel, or not? So it would be better to first think the sequel and then fit in the prequel that would match with the game...
Elequin
12-27-2009, 03:56 AM
Well JC has only mentioned his 2 sequels. I'm not much of a fan for prequels... the game is a good enough prequel.
neytirifanboy
12-27-2009, 04:24 AM
Or like Starwars .. but lets not mention those prequels ;) lol
Too right. If it's going to be anything like that, they should just forget it.
A prequel is still a good idea, because you can use the smoking Sigourney Weaver again and we can bring back Tsu'tey (or Sooty as I like to call him).
You could even potentialy bring in Jake's twin brother as part of the science team. The prequel could even end with the murder of Jakes brother, perhaps showing the RDA are more scheming than we realise.
It is clear that there were interesting events taking place before the current movie that show the how the humans fell out with the Na'vi. Grace talks scornfully about gun-totting idiots suggesting that there has been a gun-totting incident in the past.
I would expect the prequel to be quite dark, showing how dangerous Pandora is to humans and ending with a rift between the Na'vi and the humans.
Elequin
12-27-2009, 04:39 AM
Yea there is a lot going on before jake ever gets to Pandora. Just as long as the prequel is after the sequels.
doplank
12-27-2009, 06:32 AM
1 or 2 movie are enough. if only the sequel movie have a good script and story. sorry my bad English :( :(
Nicodem
12-27-2009, 06:52 AM
lol I like those poll results :)
Moving foward seems like the right way to go.
I've got no idea what JC could do though. Avatar had such a satisfying ending.
neytirifanboy
12-27-2009, 06:56 AM
Yea, it's kinda two sided thing. I mean well first of all if i'm not wrong, the Avatar game is basically a prequel, or not? So it would be better to first think the sequel and then fit in the prequel that would match with the game...
Ididn't see the game as a prequel. To me it is more like an alternative version of the movie story. But everyone should see it in the way they want.
Elequin
12-27-2009, 09:04 AM
I just read that Cameron has stated he will not do a prequel. He is focused on his next two sequels.
neytirifanboy
12-27-2009, 09:38 AM
I just read that Cameron has stated he will not do a prequel. He is focused on his next two sequels.
That's fair enough. but I think there would be a prequel if the movie developed into a super franchise. But that would ultimately depend on the success of the sequels.
In saying that, the prequels could be dealt with in novels. That would be OK.
Neytiri_makto
12-27-2009, 09:48 AM
11 to nothing
Maybe a prequel after two more sequels like underworld
Elequin
12-27-2009, 10:11 AM
I would enjoy a prequel. I just want JC to hurry up and finish the two sequels first though.
neytirifanboy
12-27-2009, 10:13 AM
I would enjoy a prequel. I just want JC to hurry up and finish the two sequels first though.
It may even make sense to LotR it and do them both together.
I think the results speak for themselves 11 vs 0 for Sequel lol
Keeper of Na'vi
12-27-2009, 12:13 PM
Not a fan of prequels, at least in the Avatar universe, I mean what would they do? showing the backstories to some characters is a cool idea, but all those happened on Earth, and no one, not even the humans, want to be on earth, you might be able to pull it off after the sequels, but never before. Sequels are the way to go
neytirifanboy
12-27-2009, 12:29 PM
Not a fan of prequels, at least in the Avatar universe, I mean what would they do? showing the backstories to some characters is a cool idea, but all those happened on Earth, and no one, not even the humans, want to be on earth, you might be able to pull it off after the sequels, but never before. Sequels are the way to go
Not really. A lot happened on Pandora before Jake arrived. I think the movie suggests that relations were better previously and have deteriorated recently. After all, how then did the Na'vi learn English.
There is definately scope for prequels on pandora. But it will porbably take the form of a novel.
Keeper of Na'vi
12-27-2009, 12:34 PM
Not really. A lot happened on Pandora before Jake arrived. I think the movie suggests that relations were better previously and have deteriorated recently. After all, how then did the Na'vi learn English.
There is definately scope for prequels on pandora. But it will porbably take the form of a novel.
I guess thats true, I hadn't thought about it actually taking place back on Pandora (Of all the things to slip my mind right? lol) but its definitely something that shouldn't be considered movie wise until after said sequels are done
Gurnblansten
12-27-2009, 12:52 PM
grace said that the Na'vi learned english because they made them schools for them and roads (the na'vi didnt like the roads though) and in that scene at hometree affter the "incident" with jake and neytiri shes talking to some young N'avi girls who were probably her students.
Elequin
12-27-2009, 12:56 PM
Yep, and if you look closely when they first get to site 26 and Jake looks at the pictures from the school you can see Neytiri in one of them.
Neytiri_makto
12-27-2009, 01:32 PM
yeah but from the dialog from the movie your not really sure if they made a school or not
Keeper of Na'vi
12-27-2009, 01:42 PM
yeah but from the dialog from the movie your not really sure if they made a school or not
"After Grace's school closed down..."
She had a legit school, it showed her in a classroom teaching young Na'Vi, Jake even asked Neytiri if she had learned English from Grace's school
Neytiri_makto
12-27-2009, 02:00 PM
it says vague things about the school until you see the pic and grace talking to kids
Sadao
12-28-2009, 03:38 PM
Prequels are nice but the game is pretty much the equivalent of a prequel.
xcrunner08
12-28-2009, 04:21 PM
The only problem of the prequel is that it seems like not much was going on before Jake showed up. There was the school, Grace's book, and a couple of other minor things but all a prequel would really show is the lifestyle of the Na'vi. I can;t see much action taking place. And while that may be fine for us hardcore Avatar fans, it has little chance of appealing to the masses and therefore little likelihood of actually happening. If it were anyone but James Cameron, I would be hesitant about a sequel but judging by his track record I am not frightened in the least.
Mike1010
12-28-2009, 04:57 PM
haha! Everybody wants sequels! I said prequels because I don't want him to use up 7 years making sequels and then try to make a sequel with everybody looking 7 years older.
I guess they could have flashbacks to explain some of the history but I'd like to know more about how they found Pandora, what is unobtanium? whats his brothers story?
Keeper of Na'vi
12-28-2009, 05:00 PM
Prequels are nice but the game is pretty much the equivalent of a prequel.
The game had a pretty cool prequel story (of course it would have to be majorly tweaked to be a movie prequel) but it wouldn't be a bad way to open into the first Avatar movie
hello
12-29-2009, 05:07 PM
haha! Everybody wants sequels! I said prequels because I don't want him to use up 7 years making sequels and then try to make a sequel with everybody looking 7 years older.
I guess they could have flashbacks to explain some of the history but I'd like to know more about how they found Pandora, what is unobtanium? whats his brothers story?
yea i definetly would not like them to look or be 7 years older...im hoping 2nd movie is not that long after 1st movie no more than a year (in the movie i have no idea how long it will take james to make the sequel)
also his brother got shot for his money
Navi's saviour
12-29-2009, 11:35 PM
They have to make a sequal. James did such a great job developing Jake's and Neytiri's relationship it would be kind of foolish to give that up for a prequal.
Jacob
12-29-2009, 11:38 PM
The RDA isn't going to give up on Pandora and its Unobtanium so easily. I want to see what happens.
Navi's saviour
12-29-2009, 11:47 PM
The RDA isn't going to give up on Pandora and its Unobtanium so easily. I want to see what happens.
I wouldn't mind it if they came back. Just none of this "BOMB FROM ORBIT" crap.
xcrunner08
12-30-2009, 06:52 AM
I wouldn't mind it if they came back. Just none of this "BOMB FROM ORBIT" crap.
Someone had a good point about this. If they b bombed the planet they would risk destroying the unobtanium, which is exactly what they are trying to get. So the whole scenario is unlikely anyway, despite te fact that it would make a movie last about 10 sec
Keeper of Na'vi
12-30-2009, 07:03 AM
Someone had a good point about this. If they b bombed the planet they would risk destroying the unobtanium, which is exactly what they are trying to get. So the whole scenario is unlikely anyway, despite te fact that it would make a movie last about 10 sec
Considering they can't just drop back into Hells Gate, thats probably where a moon is gonna come into play, because they can't leave the unobtanium but they also can't stay on Pandora
xcrunner08
12-30-2009, 07:35 AM
Considering they can't just drop back into Hells Gate, thats probably where a moon is gonna come into play, because they can't leave the unobtanium but they also can't stay on Pandora
Exactly, where better to launch a counterattack from than a neighboring planet?
Nicodem
12-30-2009, 08:23 AM
Exactly, where better to launch a counterattack from than a neighboring planet?
Now your talking.
Boricanator
12-30-2009, 07:11 PM
Sequel all the way. The story of Avatar is really Jake's story. They really should continue it and work on the future consequences of what happened in the movie.
Also, a prequel will be limited. Unlike Star Wars, there is not much of a mystery to build on for the prequels. We know there was a school were they taught the Na'vi English. We know that diplomatic relations deteriorated after a while because humans kept using their guns. So, there really isn't much to work on.
A sequel is the best way to go.
Ethan
12-30-2009, 11:57 PM
there needs to be a avatar 2
Toruk Makto
12-31-2009, 12:10 AM
I would like to see a prequel and two sequels. I think the prequel would be a different type of movie though. Well I guess that all depends on what it focused on. I think it would be really interesting to see life on the dying earth in the same universe, but it would also be interesting to see Na'vi life, the construction of Hell's Gate, the rise of Selfridge.
Cameron has basically created a new Middle Earth. There's no limit to the stories that can be told in this universe.
Navi's saviour
12-31-2009, 12:46 AM
I would like to see a prequel and two sequels. I think the prequel would be a different type of movie though. Well I guess that all depends on what it focused on. I think it would be really interesting to see life on the dying earth in the same universe, but it would also be interesting to see Na'vi life, the construction of Hell's Gate, the rise of Selfridge.
Cameron has basically created a new Middle Earth. There's no limit to the stories that can be told in this universe.
Absolutely. Granted I want to see more Jake and neytiri in the next one but having a story build around them would be boogy. Most of what people have proposed for a sequel idea is good.
Toruk
12-31-2009, 09:15 PM
As long as he takes his time and does them right definitely sequels.
Ethan
12-31-2009, 09:16 PM
i want it to be done right
Toruk
12-31-2009, 09:17 PM
I think that everyone of us on here as well as the cast/crew would too. To make a sequel just to make money and not for the sake of the viewer would take JC down a peg or 7 on the respect/like scale.
Glorfac
01-01-2010, 11:30 AM
From what I've been hearing the second Avatar could be coming out in as little as 2 years, but Im hoping he does it as good as the first. I think in an interview (sorry but i dont have that interview, just heard about it) JC said that the second wouldnt take as long to make as the first, and seeing as he was only really working on it for 3-4 years, it might be out in 2-3. Whatever he decides to do, as i have said before, I hope its on par or God willing surpasses the level of Avatar. I would rather wait 3 years for perfection than 2 years for ok.
Keeper of Na'vi
01-01-2010, 11:56 AM
From what I've been hearing the second Avatar could be coming out in as little as 2 years, but Im hoping he does it as good as the first. I think in an interview (sorry but i dont have that interview, just heard about it) JC said that the second wouldnt take as long to make as the first, and seeing as he was only really working on it for 3-4 years, it might be out in 2-3. Whatever he decides to do, as i have said before, I hope its on par or God willing surpasses the level of Avatar. I would rather wait 3 years for perfection than 2 years for ok.
Well it took him 3 to 4 years (more around 4) building it from scratch, and like everyone here knows, Cameron is the "Master of Sequels", so I don't see in anyway how he could ruin it, I'd be surprised if it wasn't better then the first, but I see where you're coming from, knowing him it would be more like 3 or 4 years, just to make sure it was that great (hope we don't have to wait another 7 or 14 for the sequel!)
Robert Henry
01-01-2010, 12:09 PM
Sequels - I need to see Neytiri and Jake again.
Neylana
01-01-2010, 12:10 PM
The same for me more Jake and Neytiri + pandora + Na'vi
Glorfac
01-01-2010, 12:26 PM
I've also been hearing he might be doing the other movie(s) on the other moons. WHY? He has already set up characters, places, the Na'Vi language. I mean if he sets it on another moon and meets more aliens then what will they speak, cuz it sure as hell can't be Na'Vi, they dont have space craft to expand to another planet so their language could not be anywhere else. I think it would be interesting, but only until the thought passed through my mind, "damn, we're not on Pandora", in which case i would be highly dissapointed. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Robert Henry
01-01-2010, 12:36 PM
No, he said - if he will do a sequel it's about Jake and Neytiri.
Glorfac
01-01-2010, 12:58 PM
I really hope so
beantownredsox
01-01-2010, 01:07 PM
I wouldn't mind a prequel to see the backstories of Jake and Neytiri. I think it would offer more insight to Jake's life, as well as Neytiri's story, you'd be able to have Grace in there as well.
Glorfac
01-01-2010, 01:23 PM
I wouldn't mind a prequel to see the backstories of Jake and Neytiri. I think it would offer more insight to Jake's life, as well as Neytiri's story, you'd be able to have Grace in there as well.
A prequel is not a bad idea, but i dont think it should be the second movie. If there are supposed to be a total of 3 Avatar movies (I kinda would want more) then having it be present/past/present wouldn't really do good. If he wants a prequel I say go for it, just make it the 3rd movie and continue on with the story as is for the moment
Ethan
01-01-2010, 01:36 PM
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1628605/story.jhtml
heres some info on posible makings of movie 2
Glorfac
01-01-2010, 01:49 PM
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1628605/story.jhtml
heres some info on posible makings of movie 2
That really answered some of my questions. So apparently the second movie will NOT be a prequel. He says, "We'll follow Jake and Neytiri," he confirmed.
In fact, Cameron intends to follow the couple for another two films. "I have a trilogy-scaled arc of story right now, but I haven't really put any serious work into writing a script," he said.
This makes me very happy.
Irayo :)
AVATAR
01-01-2010, 01:55 PM
Sequel, no question.
Glorfac
01-01-2010, 02:03 PM
Sequel, no question.
Definantly. Plus he said that it takes 9-10 months to get all the CGI work right, AFTER all the other things are done. Seeing as those things are already done, the actors can jumps straight into character and keep moving. You know what that means, even if it takes as long to do everything else in the second Avatar as it did in the first, it should be released 9-10 months before the first. So we should be looking at around 3 years until the next one comes out. It sounds soooo far away, at least until you imagine if it was 14 years away, OMG! Then it doesn't seem so bad, but still a decent time to have to wait.
chawk1993
01-03-2010, 07:40 PM
I'm a sequel type of girl. I would prefer a sequel because i'm looking forward to seeing Jake and Neytiri's romance continue and the possible add in for new characters
bradosia
01-03-2010, 09:21 PM
sequel sequel sequel. There isn't enough to go into a prequel.
I mean a prequel would be curious to watch but not pretty like Pandora. Earth would be ugly. And I don't wana watch Grace open the school. There doesn't seem like enough story.
Maybe a sequel with flashback scenes.
uniltėrantokx
01-03-2010, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike1010
haha! Everybody wants sequels! I said prequels because I don't want him to use up 7 years making sequels and then try to make a sequel with everybody looking 7 years older.
I guess they could have flashbacks to explain some of the history but I'd like to know more about how they found Pandora, what is unobtanium? whats his brothers story?
yea i definetly would not like them to look or be 7 years older...im hoping 2nd movie is not that long after 1st movie no more than a year (in the movie i have no idea how long it will take james to make the sequel)
also his brother got shot for his money
I dont think that it would take anywhere near 7 years to make even 2 sequels because now the technology exists to film them instead of having to make it from scratch
Elequin
01-03-2010, 10:05 PM
It took 2 years just get get the technology they needed ready, and a year and a half for the acting. My guess is it would take a solid 2 years for the sequel... and who knows when they will start.
xcrunner08
01-03-2010, 10:18 PM
It took 2 years just get get the technology they needed ready, and a year and a half for the acting. My guess is it would take a solid 2 years for the sequel... and who knows when they will start.
Right. We can't get super pumped just yet...its still a long way off but at least there is a good chance we will get one.
woohoo42
01-03-2010, 10:57 PM
Right. We can't get super pumped just yet...its still a long way off but at least there is a good chance we will get one.
i think we should look to the DVD release first. i dunno if we can survive the anticipation for 2 years
BrettAnthony
01-04-2010, 12:00 AM
No prequels!
Ethan
01-04-2010, 12:01 AM
definatly sequeal