Seeing Light in The Midst of Obscurity...

[_Omaticaya_]

Kaltxi :nsmile:
I haven't made one of my good old Rant threads as I used to do, in So long... Guess it was a Real Blessing for everyone! :ntongue: Well, I haven't had any time at all, it is sad, very sad only for me, I hardly get time to even lurk here now... :nsad: Well today I finally have some time and have been wanting to make a thread about this for a while. I shall try and make a sensible post.

The other night, there was an incredible storm, a proper tempest with pouring devastating rain and lightnings and thunders, I actually got soaked and was right in the middle of that storm, as the bus to come back from the gym where I train didn't come, so I ran back and got completely drenched under the thunderstorm, in the dark. I admit after all, I loved it, I felt One with Nature somehow, it was beautfiful and Sublime to be part of that Atmosphere of Immense power and greatness and Beauty of Nature and living inside it, all the way. I was in a mess, but it felt good as I treasured the fresh drops and the feeling of belonging to an Absolute essence somehow... Anyway, that is another thread I already made, Sorry for the delay... *lol*

As soon as I got home, there was a big blackout, in All my neighbourhood. Everything went dark, completely, dark and silent.

Now here is my point (finally xD). I was in my home, my mother and my sister we're looking for little candles to Lit, and I was getting my wet clothes off aswell drying up...
In that moment, I just realized, How 'Weird' it is in that situation. I realized, how attached I, and pretty much everyone I know is aswell, Depends on Electricity.
With no Tv, no Heating, no Music, no light, no computers, internet, nothing. We we're there in silence, just about to have dinner in in front of a few candles listening to the rain outside. That moment was just, so Revealing, because I was Afraid, it was a Pure feeling though.
I was wondering, just how different life would be, and how it was, in the Past.
For instance, Avatar would't even exist, there wouldn't be any social networks or anything, phones and stuff. I wondered, life would be much more... 'Short sighted', it would be more close knitted in Traditions and fewer people, and maybe less knowledge'. But in perspective ofcourse. I believe all this Learning is nonsense, it is only dogmatic learning in schools for example, read and memorize what others have said. Real learning to me is personal experience, practical skills.
Nietzsche talks about this, modern humanity makes history feel like an untouchable and unrepeatable Myth, and thinks there is nothing new to discover or learn, and just lies in apathy memorizing the past.
He is right! That is why I think Humanity today is crap. Mostly stupid ignorant evil people, obesity, criminality, waste, hypocricy and lies reign, and all that, humanity is a mess.
Therefore, in a life without all these 'facilities' given by modern life "western" standards, all depending on Electricity ofcourse, humanity would be better, and not to mention... We would also be Less #

I mean, I'd have never met some of the people that are my favourite most Loved friends now for example, if it wasn't for internet. Or even, I couldn't have gone to school, with no train. I thought, life with no technology like in the past would mean, not getting to know everything there is out there, or maybe... everyONE, let's specify. It kind of 'Freaked me out' literally :nlol: It was just scary. If I had lived in the Middle ages, I'm sure it would have been Relatively okay, Fine, because you can't 'miss' what you can't know will exist or even believe, could exist. But knowing it now, and seeing those 'tools' that keep me in touch, disappear for a few minutes, made me feel... A bit Lonely. Thinking I could never have talked to my friends on AF or on email Ever again :nsad:, would have been the End, I could not live without them. Even in my own house, with no tv or anything as a 'background', it was 'weird', electric devices and multimedia kind of 'fill in the gaps', know what I mean...
When I'm in Town, we are all on our smartphones, ipads and ipods or whatever, all feeling 'safe' in our own personal world, afraid of everything around us, yet acting like the 2012 "super humans", when they are weak, afraid pawns of a big chess game where the strong queen is Politicians and Mass Media and society pressures, and ruling Money, overall. *Yuck* I do not belong to that World, technically I do, but not in Reality, it wasn't my choice...

But as I write this I also realize, that all this is simply because of it being a Habit nowadays.
I still believe, as I believed 2 and half years ago when Avatar awoke my Omaticaya spirit, that that Life was the real one, on Pandora.
Now I am stuck in between, as without internet I'd have never met the Most important people of my life, no joke... So I'd feel terrible saying I wish I hadn't, as I couldn't not live without their presence now, or atleast, their sweet memory...

But, that Raw purer, simple life, it is always in my Heart altough the daily business keeps my mind off it... If there weren't all these distractions, life would be so much more Sincere, no one would hide behind internet and electricity and social networks, You could only be Yourself, in person, no 'Second Virtual' worlds, just the Real world. I believe relationships would be "Better" aswell, Love and Friendship, even family maybe. The "keeping in touch" business of today, only emerged since the modern world tries to "Keep us Apart" more and more, with this cosmopolitism bull**** and being 'up to date' with everything, and internet is like the "easy way" to feel as if we are in touch, when we really are Not, it is an illusion... That is just my opinion... obviously this isn't universal, but mostly I believe...

While forgetting all that, I think, how special would life have been back in the day, living in Mistery, magic, and doubt, yet fully aware of what is True, only what you experience yourself and within your comunity or village, Nature, would always be the mother, and religion, would be more profound too I believe... Today's world is a continuous load of news and facts, lies and hypocricy, we just live in the midst of these things and get used to being part of it, forgetting each one is Special, and forgetting True Values, as if this immense society 'Masks' everything and justifies everything. No thankyou.

Anyway, fact is, that moment of darkness was like an epiphany, a tangle of fear, and also pleasure, wonder and amazement and confusion, all together.

If you know there is no other Light other than the Sun to Hope for, and no Presence other than the People close to You, You'd Value every single Sunrise at dawn, so much more, and every single word and smile shared with your loved close Ones... I believe...

They say money doesn't make you happy, I find it hard to believe it too sometimes, as I think if I had money I'd buy a new car everyday, but I must realize and deep inside I know very well, it is True, the more we have, or the More we Think, we Could have, the less happy we will be. Consumerism and Capitalism feed us with this rubbish, Every.Day. Advertisements, radio, internet, fashion, Media, it is all a way to always make us want More, or be something/Someone Else, no one ever stops and thinks, I've done this before, why don't I escape from this corrupt false System?

I just think, what a Bond I'd have with a Village, or with a Community, or with a Forest, if I we're to live in that world with nothing I own today, Yeah, I'd have missed out on all this I live now, but I'd have made the Best out of the Least, and that is one bloody optimistic view, said from the most Pessimistic person on Earth, Me. Can't just be a coincidence...


Yet since this World and this Life are so bezerk and unique... AF and internet have been 'companions' aswell, or atleast helped me find ma dearest Tsmukan and loveliest Tsmukè... <3


Eywa Ngahu, sorry for this rant...

[prowler]

*prowler is lurking* * sees one of _omaticayas_ great "ranting" threads*

**** YEAH :an-tongue.:

No, but seriously i really enjoy reading your posts, they are great :nsmile: i might not make long posts or threads myself, but i can enjoy reading them instead. I see what you mean with people beeing depenable with electricty and everything.. Only when a blackout happens people releaise how much...

If its really pouring down rain i tend to walk normaly i don't see why people run for cover... I think its nice.. Well i can see the obvious of seeking cover because they dont wanna get wet...

But lile i said i enjoy reading your posts and i would hit that like button if i wasn't on my phone.. :) keep making these threads, don't listen to people who say you shouldn't, unless they are mods :p

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

wow,i felt the surrealness of your moment...we long for the simplicity of the distant past,yet are somehow attached/indebted to the contrivances of modern civilization that so briefly give us that feeling of connection and meaning.

a huge part of the Avatar Experience is that journey to a simpler,happier,and more satisfying state of being. living...not existing. it is The Way.


i am always confounded by my desire to have lived in a time before taxes,nuclear weapons,global gov't conspiracy,censorship,pollution,genocide,etc,but at the same time, would have supremely regretted not seeing Avatar and that wonderful universe and People. it is the ultimate juxtaposition of having wants of both worlds...



great post,Omaticaya. i enjoyed reading it,sir. :)

[_Omaticaya_]

it is the ultimate juxtaposition of having wants of both worlds...

Well Said, Sir :nsmile: Thankyou for reading, I enjoyed your wise words, and you too Ma Txan prowler, Irayo :an-wink: You two are the example of those people I talk about, by the way :ntongue:

[allrock123]

I strongly relate to what you are saying but everytime I try an speak from my heart here I often get cut down accused of being out of touch with reality or speaking spiritual mumbo jumbo,(sometimes I deserve it) I went through an absolute emotional thrashing after I saw Avatar , two and a half years ago and no one in my family could even closly relate to what I felt "inside" I never attached to fantasy but I sure did relate too what the film said about issues facing our humanity symbolicly, It touched on a part of my inner humanity that resonated with my soul inside , My fealings of not belonging, feeling confused and alone,, I felt where because it was "sociaty that was broken", I felt this deeply inside and the more I tryed to fix it the stronger the label sociaty gave "me" non-conformist ,family outcast, tree hugger, Etc, I decided to "seperate" myself from all this nonsense, and find a community that treated each other with respect and addresed the issues our people and the path we are all on face, I reached out to the Native American community and was suprised when they respectfuly aggred to reach back, I saw a people that where very poor but allways found it in there hearts to suport there elderly and childern with great respect with no expectation of payment in any form, I met a group of people who felt the same way about the issues facing sociaty and our enviroment called the Council of all Beings www.councilofallbeings.org (http://www.councilofallbeings.org/) that proved there are people that do care and "can see" I watched our sociaty give them "labels" as well for speaking from there heart on the issues our children will face if we do not make a shift in the path we are on , As a whole I see the community here at AF with huge respect and have made an effort to call to light "root" issues effecting humanity, I make mistakes just like any human but have been very impresed with the world view people share here, We must be careful to not allow the " Seperation system" to drive us into depression as many of us share a heavy burden, I honestly beleve if we all work together we can all do our part in healing humanity and every person counts. We all have our part in humanity

Avatar, Moved By You: Jake and Neytiri - You&#39;re Everything - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_a7NJBFs6M)

[Tsyal Makto]

Oh yeah, I love thunderstorms, too. There's something about them that makes one feel close to nature. They are one of nature's most powerful states, and to be in the presence of such power is too tantalizing to ignore. :nsmile:

As for the more serious topic at hand, the dominant culture has indeed become one of division. We are told we are separate from nature. We are told our fellow man is a competitor, not a brother/sister. Yet at the same time we are paradoxically a society of mass indoctrination. We are taught to fear alternative worldviews, to fear change. We are told to just follow the herd, follow the governments and corporations, and you'll be safe and happy (yet it is also they who define "safe" and "happy"). A child raised in a box will know of nothing more than the inside of the box, and I feel current humanity might be in a similar situation. There's so much more to this world, and we're missing it. There's something we've lost along the way, and living without it is slowly killing us. Like living in a society that revolves around brotherhood and community rather than competition, or a society where we treat the Earth like the Mother of all life that she is, rather than just a dead ball of resources. I think the problem is that post-Enlightenment philosophy has been driven mainly by folks like Hobbes, rather than people like Rosseau.

I'm thankful that it seems like humans are entering a second Enlightenment. You can see the proof everyday, of how the ruling class is getting sweaty under the collar. Of how they're attempting to stop the rise of a new way forward, with censorship, surveillance, and police brutality. They are doing whatever it takes to keep the wool pulled over our eyes, to keep us from realizing our true strength, but we will win in the end. The world we all want to see is coming, it's so close I can almost taste it. Can't you? We just need to keep fighting the good fight, for our souls, for our Mother, for our lives.

It's times like these I'm reminded of the line, "Evetybody dies, but not everybody lives." Indeed, I, like many here, look to the simpler, more natural and communal life of the past as the best examples of truly living, and reaching the goal of this life is my ultimate dream (it's why I joined the Blue Moon Tribe, after all). At the same time, I find it interesting how the tools that most represent the modern life can make works that draw us back to the ideals of truly Living, works like Avatar. So I also wonder, is it not the tools that are the problem, but rather the greedy, selfish minds of those that control it (the governments, corporations, the Ruling Class in general) who are the problem. Could the same tools that brought us Avatar, be a new way forward for humanity to get back in touch with our Mother, and each other?

[The Silver Stag]

That was truly awesome to read :) Fear is such an exciting emotion, allows you to see things with clarity in a way very few other emotions let you. Being out in a thunderstorm is almost like chastized by a parent, hearing the thunder crackle and having the rain pouring down on your face, but it's a display that is always followed with the loving embrace of sunshine again.

A couple of years back I had a similar experience where all the lights went out, and my folks started lighting candles everywhere. I have never felt so at ease when inside a building. Sitting in the living room, no tv, radio, internet. Cut off, only the sound of car alarms outside. The gentle flicker of the candle light on the walls. Peace.

Simple existence, life at it's most basic. Just enough to make you appreciate modern things, but more than enough to make you want to go back to a simpler time.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

this is one of the most interesting threads in this debate forum...i do love reading the posts,People. moar,please!!! :good:

[_Omaticaya_]

The gentle flicker of the candle light on the walls. Peace.


This... I Adore reading these things... <3 I See You

[The Silver Stag]

You know, something happened today that reminded me of this thread. A freak storm swept across much of England, it started out as a constant rumbling thunder like noise that gradually got louder over half an hour. A few minutes before it arrived, all the birds started moving around, I watched a blackbird calling for her young and knew something crazy was on the way. It went very very dark, very still then it finally arrived at us, sleet fell out of the sky, bloody great big chunks of ice the size of tennis balls, thunder crackled, fork lightning struck, flash flooding turning the roads into streams....

Then 10 minutes later it stopped, the sun came out and all was well again, just like that. The water drained away and we went outside to survey the damage. Guttering and tiles torn away, branches and leaves absolutely everywhere, car/greenhouse windows smashed, half of my fruit garden in ruins and two fallen birds on our patio. Scared? No. Saddened? Slightly. But the feeling that truly took hold was awe. Nature is truly all powerful, such a display of strength by the thing I revere most.

Human psychology is odd - when you experience a strange or scary event, part of your mind says 'Hey that was actually quite fun, let's do it again!'. If I take one thing from today, it is to always put your faith in the information your fellow species can give you. When the birds start to panic, summon their young and rush to shelter, so too should you ;)

[_Omaticaya_]

Human psychology is odd - when you experience a strange or scary event, part of your mind says 'Hey that was actually quite fun, let's do it again!'. If I take one thing from today, it is to always put your faith in the information your fellow species can give you. When the birds start to panic, summon their young and rush to shelter, so too should you ;)

That is Wonderful Man, I Liked all of your post, I always do :nsmile:
And what you said up here^, is in your words, exactly like the concept of Sublime and Infinite in Romanticism <3
The fear of the immense power of Nature, once you're put in front of it, somehow Scares you almost to death, until it Transforms into Pleasure somehow, pleasure and greatness to be part of that Nature, able to experience and interpret it.

Great post mate, and Indeed, always good to 'listen' and watch animals, they know more than we can imagine, about the real World, Nature. All the things we don't know now anymore, because of what society know calls important. So know most of humanity cannot survive in the Wild as a real person, a human being able to survive with its own capabilities and senses, now they're more like radio controlled robots with deodorants and ties on.

Yet, they all Persist in calling everything in the name of "Progress", wow nice one indeed, nice ****ing Fail. I can't wait for a major disaster to see their progress get them dead in 24 hours, and sorry for being harsh.

I See You Mate, the rant came out of Nowhere *lol*

[The Silver Stag]

Hehehe thank you, I am honoured to have had my post read and understood :)

[applejuice]

Only to put emphasis on how useless we are without electricity in the 21st Century. Interestingly, the other night (for unknown reasons) there was blackout and the exact same situation: nothing. No internet, no TV (though I haven't really watched it for a while), no radio, nothing. It is scary to learn the degree of dependence we have with technology. We are nothing without electricity. If a cataclysm is to happen, then we are going to have, IMHO, a doomsday situation if our power grids disappear, but we've been there before so that puts things in perspective.

[_Omaticaya_]

Only to put emphasis on how useless we are without electricity in the 21st Century. Interestingly, the other night (for unknown reasons) there was blackout and the exact same situation: nothing. No internet, no TV (though I haven't really watched it for a while), no radio, nothing. It is scary to learn the degree of dependence we have with technology. We are nothing without electricity. If a cataclysm is to happen, then we are going to have, IMHO, a doomsday situation if our power grids disappear, but we've been there before so that puts things in perspective.

True man. It makes you feel kind of vulnerable all the sudden, but it is the Only way to Wake up and See I believe.
As Hegel says, a spirit cannot impose its self if not through battle. It never really finds its real worth in happy or easy situations, sometimes not even Love, unless it contains some anguish. Therefore, until the lights go out, it is easy to rely on it. But once it goes, we have to fight for survival, and then the strong souls arise.
We are nothing maybe, but maybe we are Everything without electricity, dont you think somehow? On that 'doomsday' as I think it would be aswell for humanity as you rightly said, only those who are "something" could survive and take over and help people, in my opinion.