Avatar 2 Release Date Pushed Back to 2016

[Lon]

Executive Producer Jon Landau in a recent interview with Bleedingcool.com (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/01/11/jon-landau-says-avatar-2-four-years-away/), has confirmed that AVATAR 2 is now at least 4 years away. This pushes AVATAR 2 back well into 2016. "Landau promised that Avatar 2 was going to showcase advanced technology, from the 3D camera system used to the CG and performance capture, but also in terms of a higher framerate. This, Landua says, is the new frontier that he and Cameron are most interested in pushing."

Here's a separate interview with James Cameron from ABC (http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/james-cameron-avatar-details-14716421) released this past October.

[prowler]

2016...? WHAT??? I will never survive the wait now :ncry: I really hope this isn't true..

[Pandora66]

Dammit, I always assumed it was going to be Dec 2014/2015 for II and III, this news sucks.

[exostrike]

Don't think of it as four years, think of it as a two year delay

[Lon]

Here's another interview with Jon Landau from today (http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/01/11/jon-landau-updates-on-avatar-sequel-progress-james-camerons-plans-for-terminator-2-aliens-in-3d/) about AVATAR 2.

[prowler]

I still can't believe it... I guess its for the best :nsmile:

[Ahoragi]

It's ok guys, good things come to those who wait. ;)

[Sanjwale]

hmmm.. my mouth is laying on the floor here becuase of the title :nsad: longer waiting. that is gonna be hard.

hopefully it is worth it. what Iḿ pretty sure of :nsmile:

['upxare]

That's no good news fore sure. But who knows what it is good for, two years have already passed and "four years from now" doesn't automatically mean that it's gonna be DEC 2016! Just hope this forum will stay alive, well, I'm going to contribute my part! :an-wink:

[ashkan]

Then we need to say goodbye to Battle Angel! :ncry:

[Miss Tammie]

Just saw this posted on FACEBOOK when I got home. This is sad, very sad only. http://www.avatar-forums.com/images/imported/2012/01/7.gif But...I guess if it will help make the sequels more ground-breaking and amazing I guess the wait will be worth it. Still bummed out though to have to wait for another 4 years. Tsa-hey! :an-tongue.:

Producer Jon Landau Says 'Avatar' Sequels are Still Four Years Away - Fandango.com (http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/producer-jon-landau-says-avatar-sequels-are-still-four-years-away-689340.html?wss=mktfacebook&snid=fanpage)

[Aihwa]

WAAAAT?


>_>


This hurts us.

[tm20]

http://www.avatar-forums.com/images/imported/2012/01/5.png

looks like i'll just have to wait for the novel in the mean time...oh wait that's never coming out -___-

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

well,this sucks. :grumpy: where is that novel? *damn*

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

well,2012 is starting off a with a bang. lol. oki dokey....i'm gonna need something Avatar-related in the next four years........a novel,comic book series,a neyney statue,a videogame. something!!!






*need a better job,too*

[Eternal Enigma]

Avatar 2 Likely "Four Years Away" (http://www.reelz.com/movie-news/12833/avatar-2-likely-four-years-away/)

Mawey, na'viya... mawey...

Don't worry guys there's new technology already out or in development that will help to make the sequels an even better experience. Since the release of Avatar better more advanced technologies have been developed that make the groundbreaking cutting edge performance capture technology used in Avatar obsolete. Since the release of Avatar this area of movie magic has exploded in development and since the expectations of future productions are so high it would be worth waiting for further advancements for a better presentation. Personally I don't think he should film them back to back anyways just to allow for newer technologies to come about so that each film has noticeable quality differences.

Although waiting is easier said than done it really would be the best thing for a film like Avatar. Just imagine how much more realistic Pandora could be or just imagine Jake or Neytiri looking more real than they do now. I don't know about you, but I'm expecting something big and since James Cameron has had a taste of once again making the best movie of all time with cutting edge technology I have no doubts he wants to push technology to the limit and beyond what technology and graphics experts say will be possible over the years to come. I do not want the sequels to feel rushed and I've been really worried that if James feels pressured to quickly turn around and turn out rushed scripts and is forced to overlook unexplored new technology that you would get the feeling that it was rushed. As a fan you'd be able to tell and once the sequels are here it's very unlikely there will be anymore and the last thing you want to feel is disappointment. We are on the edge of actually removing the gap between reality and CGI... I want the sequels to be THAT movie that does it.

Sometimes a delay can be a good thing even though reading reports of delays can make you feel uneasy because the word delay almost sounds like cancelled.

[SpacePhoenix]

I hope it doesn't cause any scheduling conflicts for any of the cast, I think Zoe is down to play Uhura in the sequels to Star Trek, can't remember when them films are due out. I hope in the mean time we get an ultimate collectors edition (3D with all the deleted scenes fully completed and inserted into the relevant places). I wonder if the delay is down to the motion capture stage (which is where cast schedule conflicts could become an issue) or down to the image processing stage (all the stuff they do after the motion capture work).

[momourish]

The wait is way too LONG

[Susano'o]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

the good thing is,we'll still be here in four years,provided we're still vertical by the good graces,and perhaps some new faces will join us...and some old ones. :)

[prowler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc&feature=related

[Scott]

The first thing that popped into my head is that catchy tune, "Cause you had a bad day..." It is still better to have loved Avatar and long for more than to have not known it at all.

[Wameyn]

Guess we will all have to hang out an extra year...lol

I dont want to wait longer but I have no doubt he'll put out the best two movies he possibly can. Still looking forward to that novel as well!

[Wameyn]

Im with Ja'k, I hope we get some new Avatar related things to help tide us over...the first movie coming out in 2009 and the 2nd 2016 is a lot to ask, even of the most diehard fans. Although I think many of us qualify, I just hope we get that novel, some comic books, a really awesome video game, 13 new Neytiri statues for Ja'k and I'll be pretty content. lol

AF had best still be around by that time. :)

[Alan]

I just hope the arrival is better than the journey. I'm sure it will, and when it does, I just hope soooo much we can be altogether to view them. No doubt there will be teasers along the way...

Alan

[Sanjwale]

Lon already posted it. but it still hurts. and also the novel doesn't want to come. Hopefully JC get some time to write the novel now :)

[Alan]

well,2012 is starting off a with a bang. lol. oki dokey....i'm gonna need something Avatar-related in the next four years........a novel,comic book series,a neyney statue,a videogame. something!!!

Well, I don't know about the above, but you can bet your blue a*se that there will be fan meet ups along the way... I've heard there's one cracking off this year - Hehehehe

But yeah, anoooottthhheeerrr fourrrrrrrr yeeeeeaaaaarrrrrrsssss.....Meh! OH well, I bet the film makers for Avatar are prowling thes forums as we discuss this, checking our reactions (Kaltxi Avatar film crew :nhi:)

All I can say is; Avatar is a part of all of us who are here. Of course we will stick it out. Although there is no choice, the truth is we are now like a family that have been brought together by this unbelievable film. We just need to find a way to bide out time until premiere night when I say we should all meet on mass to be there and share the expereince together. HELL YEAH!!!

Alan

[Sanjwale]

I think wameyn summed it up pretty good :)

(great avatar btw :nlove:)

[Wameyn]

I think wameyn summed it up pretty good :)

(great avatar btw :nlove:)

Thanks man!

[Replica]

Oh nice! Well... as much as this sucks to hear, i'd rather wait an extra year and have it done right rather than have it come out early and it be terrible.

[Joy Division]

Today in the news...


Avatar 2 Release Pushed Back To 2016 Reveals Producer Jon Landau (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/01/12/avatar-2-release-pushed-back-to-2016-reveals-jon-landau_n_1201391.html)

[gilmeiri1]

2016?!?!
****

Too much :(
I hope that Cameron will release the novel soon.

[Aygo]

Finally James Cameron confirmed that Avatar 2 is still planned for 2014. He said that it will take 4 years to produce Avatar 2 AND Avatar 3.
So we should understand 2014 for Avatar 2 and 2016 for Avatar 3 (instead of 2015)
:)

[Hyleg Ourobockle]

Finally James Cameron confirmed that Avatar 2 is still planned for 2014. He said that it will take 4 years to produce Avatar 2 AND Avatar 3. So we should understand 2014 for Avatar 2 and 2016 for Avatar 3 (instead of 2015) :) ? The article clearly indicates that this supersedes Cameron's previous statements. The first sequel, Avatar 2, will be a 2016 title, and that 2019 will be a probable release year for Avatar 3. Anyway, I particularly liked this statement:
Nevertheless, Landau promised the next movie will showcase “advanced technology” including a higher rate of 3D camera system and the CG and performance capture. I wasn't a fan of Avatar's computer graphics, because while they looked awesome for a CG movie, Avatar wasn't a CG movie. It was a live-action, and I don't think the graphics meshed will with the live-action elements at all. I'm hoping they spend some more time polishing the graphics. If the sequel needs more time for them to fix some of the first's issues, then that's a good thing. Also, isn't this topic already covered here (http://www.avatar-forums.com/news-updates/avatar-sequels-delayed-17266/#post395316)?

[Palulukan_Taronyu]

LAME!!!


*Sigh*

[_Omaticaya_]

Nice One Alan :nsmile: What could I expect from you anyway... :ntongue: I Lolled at Susan'o's Darth Vader 'No!' :nlol: :rotfl:

[Sanjwale]

I don't know anymore what I need to beleive. I will stay with the 2016. it only can get better.


Aygo, your sig... that pic... *faints* :nlove:

[Sanjwale]

Thanks man!


I'm sorry for being offtopic but this just needs to be said:

I would faint when I would wake up with that above my head :nlove:

[Hyleg Ourobockle]

I don't know anymore what I need to beleive. I will stay with the 2016. it only can get better. Changes in release date are pretty common, and I can pretty much guarantee that this won't be the only one (although I dunno if the next change will be sooner or later). You go through the same thing with most movies, but especially with video games.

[Eternal Enigma]

Future Avatar productions delayed:

This topic is covered here multiple times: http://www.avatar-forums.com/avatar-2-news-updates/avatar-2-release-date-pushed-back-2016-a-17265/ , http://www.avatar-forums.com/news-updates/avatar-sequels-delayed-17266/#post395316

(I personally think we should stop looking at these small gossip articles all over the internet because they're only going to make us feel hopeless. It's difficult to know which articles have the facts and which articles have the "facts" otherwise known as incorrect information or fabricated guesses created by people misinterpreting what James Cameron said).

I want to see an interview for this year with James Cameron himself talking about Avatar sequels not articles with people repeating what THEY think he said. None of the information that I've seen over the past few days is the same.

Delayed release dates and the benefits of waiting:

We should have awesome holographic TV by then because technology analysts predict that early versions of "simple" holographic televisions should hit the market by the end of 2012. For anyone in the market for buying a television I'd just go out and by a regular HDTV instead of a 3D one because holographic technology is going to blow 3DTV out of the water like a bad joke. I've seen videos of what their holographic TVs look like and yes they still need a lot of work, but if you stand up and walk around you see completely different angles of the characters on the screen. So the technology of the future in this area is very exciting and I would love to see a film like Avatar capitalize on these technologies. Motion capture technology like they used in Avatar where they had to have dots on their face is obsolete because they have computer technology now that can create live high poly wireframe images of your face with special software. The technology doesn't just simply read dots anymore it can actually see wrinkles on your face. They have that and another technology that uses a camera to create a live 3D holographic image of your face that can move and be displayed in real time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux6aD6vE9sk&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=GWiRurBUhao

(I couldn't find the video of the new performance capture technology sorry, I'll keep looking and post it if I find it)

It's sort of like this, but with more detail. This one was created using Kinect for Xbox 360.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYsqNnDA1l4

The one I'm talking about can see the wrinkles on your face and create a high detail 3D model that can later be skinned by graphic artists and retain all of the wrinkles and movement of your face. Later on this technology will be able to see more detail such as pores, skin texture, and color, but it's still in its infancy.

Although still in early versions the future technology that will be available for the sequels will prove to enhance the movie that much more by allowing better motion capture and higher frame rates. These are very exciting times for both fans and movie makers. I see A LOT of the movies of the past being remade in the future just so viewers can experience those movies like they were meant to be seen.

Graphics Technology:


I wasn't a fan of Avatar's computer graphics, because while they looked awesome for a CG movie, Avatar wasn't a CG movie. It was a live-action, and I don't think the graphics meshed will with the live-action elements at all. I'm hoping they spend some more time polishing the graphics. If the sequel needs more time for them to fix some of the first's issues, then that's a good thing. Also, isn't this topic already covered here?

Avatar had the best graphics humans are able to create period (for now). Graphics are created with 3D models and graphic artists. The movie was performed and recorded both in motion capture and live action performances. The CGI portions of the movie was basically hand painted. In order to have better graphics the graphic artists have to do ultra high resolution high detailed "skins" for all of the CG/CGI elements. Computer graphics is a mix of geometric 3D models (polys/polygons/meshes/models) created by people trained just like game makers with texture and overlaid skins created by graphic artists. Then you get into the complexities of adding dynamic/vertex lighting and shading on such large scales. Then motion capture technology allows us to move these CG elements like high tech puppetry, which gives the CGI characters more realism because it brings them to life by capturing the movements of living beings instead of being animated by animators that can sometimes look unnatural. Graphics are only as good as the artists who create the skins that texture the world/characters can make them. I think a lot of people are confused with how CG/CGI works.

In the realm of graphics cards how many shaders a graphics card has determines the geometry that card can handle/process. The higher the geometry the less blocky the 3D models and world are, which gives it more realism especially if textured and lit appropriately. With that you must have more processing power and that's why video games do not have graphics like Avatar, because it would require a MONSTER of a graphics card. I'm talking about a graphics card so expensive that only the 1% would be able to afford it.

Acronym definition explanation: CG = Computer Generated... CGI = Computer Generated Imagery. (in the world of graphics)

CG or Computer Generated is usually a reference to the models made. This means the CG world or any object made in it.

CGI or Computer Generated Imagery is usually a reference to the images that texture the 3D models. This means how the CG world or anything in the world looks in its finished rendering.

CG/CGI does not mean a computer creates and renders the graphics. (Computers do not make the graphics, they process graphics/models made by humans). CG/CGI means artists who are just regular people like you and me with a gift sit in front of computers for years and "paint" skins to texture the CG world and characters that are created by people who create models. If you've ever tried to create a skin for a model in a modern game or create your own model/level you know how difficult it is. I've got to give major props to the artists and model/world creators who are able to make it look real.

I'm difficult to impress... the night I lost my virginity I actually said; "THAT was it?!" Avatar as a whole impressed the **** out of me. I haven't seen graphics like that before or since because most films lack the financial capabilities, artists, or technical advances like a film created by James Cameron has. The graphics of the newer Star Fail films didn't even almost come close to this and that was CG mixed with live action as well. In those films you didn't feel immersed in the movie and seeing the CG Yoda was a joke. The graphics of LOTR and the live action of those movies failed. Same thing with the Harry Potter films and any other film that has mixed CGI and live action.

Avatar was actually in my opinion the very first movie where the full CGI and live action elements mixed well in a movie. It wasn't perfect, but we're on the edge of removing the gap between reality and CGI. The advancements of motion capture technology is what breathes life into a movie like Avatar and as I said the motion capture technology used in Avatar is obsolete because more advanced technology has arrived or is currently in development. I think they did an excellent job in Avatar and the sequels should be much better than Avatar is and it's going to be at least another few years before any movie is released with better graphics than Avatar (most likely Avatar 2 and 3). In my opinion Avatar is the very first movie where computer graphics actually worked.

Video games are at least two decades from having the graphics of Avatar because consoles and PC systems that the everyday person has just aren't capable of processing those types of graphics. Unless you want to throw down $20,000+ for a gaming system that could run it. Movies like Avatar are able to do this because it's not an interactive sequence that requires processing power it's just a movie. That's why the video segments of games for the PS1 looked better than the actual game itself. In fact, in the great Console VS. PC debate Avatar proved once and for all that PC graphics are and will remain superior to any console graphics technology unless they start making consoles upgradable (E.g. Users being able to replace the graphics card, processor, power source, etc). Since only PCs can do that PCs will remain the king of graphics and gaming.

Avatar is the first thing I've ever been a full blown fan of. Before Avatar there were lots of things I liked, but Avatar is something I wish to follow from now on.

[Emil]

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[Emil]

So, now my Avatar 2 clock thread is completely useless...and I have to wait 4 and a half years?...

http://www.avatar-forums.com/images/imported/2012/01/87.jpg

[ScottWashburn]

Well, this is pretty disappointing. A seven year wait between the first movie and the second? Well, at least with all the primary characters except Norm and Max as Na'vi, Cameron doesn't have to worry about the aging of his actors (as long as they are still spry enough to jump and roll on the set). But I hope the delay isn't simply because of the desire to get new 3D technology. I hate 3D. It's a colossal waste of effort in my opinion and adds nothing whatever to the movie.

[exostrike]

Though there is one possible postive outcome of this, it gives two more years to the development of Avatar the game 2. Cameron hasn't seemed to have given up on the idea of a good licensed game and providing they have a good team on the project they should be able to produce a good game in four years.

[Eternal Enigma]

I agree that traditional "3D" technology is a waste of time and effort. Although I may boast about holographic TV I am personally more interested in the perfection of OLED TV. Really all they need for Avatar 2 and 3 is to go with higher resolution textures, more geometry, higher frame rates, and the best performance capture technology available when they begin to film.

Upon looking at Zoe Saldana's IMDb page:

2014 Avatar 2 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630029/) (announced (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1630029))
Neytiri (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0098391) (rumored)

2013 Blood Ties (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1747958/) (rumored) (pre-production (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1747958))

2013 Untitled Star Trek Sequel (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1408101/) (filming (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1408101))
Nyota Uhura (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001462)



Upon looking at Sam Worthington's IMDb page:

2014 Avatar 2 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630029/) (announced (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1630029))
Jake Sully (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0098390) (rumored)

2012 Hunter Killer (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1846589/) (pre-production (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1846589))
Bill Beaman (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0267505) (rumored)

2013 Thunder Run (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2097338/) (filming (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt2097338))

2012 Wrath of the Titans (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1646987/) (post-production (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1646987))
Perseus (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0043859)

2012 Drift (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1714833/) (post-production (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1714833))
JB (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0225982)



Upon looking at Sigourney Weaver's IMDb page:

2014 Avatar 2 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630029/) (announced (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1630029))
Grace Augustine (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0062576)

???? Ghostbusters III (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/) (announced (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1289401))
Dana Barrett (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0000509) (rumored)

2012 Happy Holidays, Katherine Sloane (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1853575/) (pre-production (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1853575))
Hadley Sloane (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0243583)

2012/II The Cold Light of Day (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1366365/) (completed (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1366365))

2012 Red Lights (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1748179/) (completed (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1748179))
Margaret Matheson (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0243962)



Upon looking at James Cameron's IMDb page:

2016 Battle Angel (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437086/) (screenplay) (announced (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt0437086))

2015 Avatar 3 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1757678/) (characters / screenplay) (announced (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1757678))

2014 Avatar 2 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630029/) (screenplay) (announced (http://www.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/title/tt1630029))

2009 Avatar (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499549/) (written by)

EDIT: Noticed a date missing... :\

[tm20]

maybe this is just a really really really early april fools joke.

[Pandora66]

maybe this is just a really really really early april fools joke.

assume that filming starts June 2012, that gives them 2 full years to get part II done by June 2014 for release DEC 2014, is that realistic? I believe that at worse part II arrives DEC 2015 no later, work started on the original movie in April 2007 - the movie hit theatres in Dec 2009 - 28 months after it started, in order to meet 2015/2016 I'm assuming that the stories/scripts are more or less done, if they are still working on this today then who knows, given that it's a Cameron project I expect nothing but the best - Avatar will not become the Matrix or Star Wars

[Alan]

Nice One Alan :nsmile: What could I expect from you anyway... :ntongue:

Hehehe...You know me too well, ma tsmukan :nhi: Always reaching for the stars!

Alan

[Suzy]

My feelings (http://nooooooooooooooo.com/) ... :ncry:

(Still, the delay might give Sam Worthington time to get back into shape (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/movies/australian-actor-sam-worthington-spills-guts-on-those-fat-photos/story-e6frf9h6-1226243437815)! :nsmile: )

[Sanjwale]

never know that he was getting that fat. I hope he get some workout fast :p

alteast zoe is even beautifull as she was :)

[_Omaticaya_]

(Still, the delay might give Sam Worthington time to get back into shape (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/movies/australian-actor-sam-worthington-spills-guts-on-those-fat-photos/story-e6frf9h6-1226243437815)! :nsmile: )

Nice interview :) Man I love Sam he's just such an awesome guy... So cleancut... And I love his humour and 'realness', awesome. And anyhow, he ain't fat yo he's fine!

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

well,i have been a huge Matrix fan for 13 years now,since seeing the original in the theater many times in 1999,and i will still be around in 2016 as a huge Avatar fan,granted i'm still breathing oxygen per the good graces,of course. i really hope to see non-glasses 3D by then....hell yeahhhh!!!!

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[visualizer]

When I heard the news, the next night I had a dream where I was watching Avatar 2 (a completely bungled version of Avatar that made no logic sense... Heh, dream worlds :P), but it's plot, storyline, and everything else seemed off, non-canon, etc. It made me really upset that the sequel wasn't as good as the first. Now that I'm awake, I'm just hoping that the extra two years is to keep something like this from happening. That realization was truly frightening.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

AF had best still be around by that time.


i hope so too...but first we have to survive the SOPA/IP Protect Act/End of the Internet vote in congress,and then the end of the Mayan Calendar. yeah,2012 will be interesting. *sighs*

[CyanRachel]

It's ok guys, good things come to those who wait. ;)

Yes, this is what I want to believe. And you know, sometimes time has a way of moving faster than you think...so before we know it it'll be 2016 and the wait will be over.

Well, now there will be no excuse for the sequel films to be anything less than EPIC! :-)

[Sanjwale]

I have no doubt that it is gonna be epic :nhi:

I just found out why my :nsmile: ears wheren't moving. you need to use :.an-smile.: instead of :.nsmile.: xD

[Wameyn]

[QUOTE=Ja'k Dawsiin;395799] really hope to see non-glasses 3D by then....hell yeahhhh!!!!

this!!!

[HufweMakto]

I wish it was coming out sooner, oh well....

But the wait will be worth it!

[HAMOND]

According to this report the avatar producer says James Cameron plans to release the movie not in 2014 as originally promised but in 2016. As much as I would hate to wait, its better I wait till 2016 and get something really GREAT than get CRAP in 2014.

And I hope avatar 2 has a plot worth watching!!
I know that the visuals will be even greater in Avatar 2 and 3, Avatar 3 to be released in 2017!!

Here is the link to the report!

Avatar 2 Is Delayed for a Long Time—Is That a Bad Sign? - E! Online (http://www.eonline.com/news/avatar_2_delayed_long_timemdashis_bad/286082)

[akgeff]

This is way beyond my attention span. Guess J.C.'s got better things to do and figures the "Avatar Junkies" will put up with it.

[prowler]

Better late then never i guess...

[ScottWashburn]

Cameron's taking a real risk. No matter how good Avatar 2 is, it won't have the awe and wonder of the first one. It just can't. So, a lot of fans are going to lose interest and drift off during the next five years and it might be hard to get them all back. Oh well, out of our hands.

[Pandora66]

Cameron's taking a real risk. No matter how good Avatar 2 is, it won't have the awe and wonder of the first one. It just can't. So, a lot of fans are going to lose interest and drift off during the next five years and it might be hard to get them all back. Oh well, out of our hands.

I doubt it, the Avatar project will be his legacy, his statement so to speak about the world we live in and what could be, there might be a variety of reasons for the extension (waiting for technology to catch up, will theatres be able to show this movie as he plans to shoot it? making sure the script(s) are air tight, getting all of the necessary staffing/depts in-line to get this project underway, no rushing to get it done, and most important of all making sure that Avatar II and III delivers the goods to the standard set by I). Once the promo machine gets wound up there will be no escaping these sequels especially if they get near unanimous approval from preview/focus group audiences, I expect Cameron to push the envelope once again leaving all competition light years behind, let's face it no one has come close to matching Avatar yet, a lot of big budget movies have CGI elements yet most of them fail miserably in blending those elements together.

[akgeff]

I doubt it, the Avatar project will be his legacy, his statement so to speak about the world we live in and what could be, there might be a variety of reasons for the extension (waiting for technology to catch up, will theatres be able to show this movie as he plans to shoot it? making sure the script(s) are air tight, getting all of the necessary staffing/depts in-line to get this project underway, no rushing to get it done, and most important of all making sure that Avatar II and III delivers the goods to the standard set by I). Once the promo machine gets wound up there will be no escaping these sequels especially if they get near unanimous approval from preview/focus group audiences, I expect Cameron to push the envelope once again leaving all competition light years behind, let's face it no one has come close to matching Avatar yet, a lot of big budget movies have CGI elements yet most of them fail miserably in blending those elements together.

IF the film industry et al doesn't come up with some decent movies worth the expense and hassle of going to an Imax cinema over the next five years J.C. better worry that over half of the Imax theaters will be out of business and there won't be near as many "venues" for him to profit from his "Magnum Opus" sequels... I certainly havn't been impressed with what has been offered over the last couple of years. I havn't been to a theater since the last time I watched Avatar in Imax on its re-release as the local Imax wasn't finished in time for the initial release. The only film on the horizon that might get me back into a theater is the "John Carter of Mars" that is supposed to be released this summer. Depends on how good a job they do with it .

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

^ yeah,i have often wondered how long these IMAX theaters can last,as screenings of films in that format are not very often. there are four IMAX theaters in my area,and really only two of them are in operation all year,the other two are idle out of holiday seasons. i think JC would have to start a ramp-up campaign sometime before the sequel releases,to ensure that all the 3D and IMAX theaters are online,after such a long time away from the cinemas. i had read that the Avatar team had to tailor film cuts for 4,354 screens in the US,and 1,109 screens overseas for the initial release,and many more over the course of the theater run. i hope all these theaters are still around in 2016.

[Sanjwale]

lets ignore "us" who always go to see it doesn't matter how, or what :)

for all the other people for who avatar was just a film they already forgot avatar. so they don't think about the years. in some years when avatar II is gonna be on tv for promotional reasons they will think about it and buy a ticket. atleast that is how I think it will go :)

ohh and only james cameron can make the second part more epic (is that possible? :O... HELL YEAH!) than the first part :an-smile:

[ProfoundHeart]

Ahh, sadness enters my heart.
Although let's be honest, it's going to be well worth the wait.

[Alan]

Stone the crows!!! Look who it is! Kaltxi ProfoundHeart! :nhi:

Chear up mate, we're having a meet up in Seattle for Avatar fans. :nwink: We gota pull together for the long haul. It shouldn't be hard for us though - our friendships are too strong now to just walk away. We'll make it through no problem! Just you watch. And when we all meet up to watch Avatar 2 together, just think how wonderfull that will be. We won't be alone watching it surrounded by people for whom it is just a film, but by people who share an unspoken understanding and connection.

Alan

[Sanjwale]

^haha, I needed to laugh. I was scrolling down this thread until.... his sig almost hit me in the face so much attention (= awesome) it takes :p

[Suzy]

Cameron's taking a real risk. No matter how good Avatar 2 is, it won't have the awe and wonder of the first one. It just can't. So, a lot of fans are going to lose interest and drift off during the next five years and it might be hard to get them all back. Oh well, out of our hands.

He could keep some interest up by releasing a novel (or novels), a comicbook series, more concept art books, etc. in the intervening years.

[_Omaticaya_]

Stone the crows!!! Look who it is! Kaltxi ProfoundHeart! :nhi:

Chear up mate, we're having a meet up in Seattle for Avatar fans. :nwink: We gota pull together for the long haul. It shouldn't be hard for us though - our friendships are too strong now to just walk away. We'll make it through no problem! Just you watch. And when we all meet up to watch Avatar 2 together, just think how wonderfull that will be. We won't be alone watching it surrounded by people for whom it is just a film, but by people who share an unspoken understanding and connection.

Alan

Nice one mate :nsmile: I loved the 'Unspoken Connection' :) So true, a nice description of an undescribable bond :nlol:

[Alan]

I must admit I cannot take the credit ma tsmukan. That has to go to Human No More who came up with that very accurate description of the Avatar Fan community. He hit the nail on that one. I'm sure however long it takes Avatar 2 and 3 to emerge, we will still be here....well I sincerely hope so.

Alan

[Wameyn]

He could keep some interest up by releasing a novel (or novels), a comicbook series, more concept art books, etc. in the intervening years.

I agree Suzy and I hope he does :nsmile:

[SpacePhoenix]

I would like to see a new game released in the mean time more elder scrolls/gta style of play made by them lot who made skyrim, using the same game engine as Skyrim but with the graphics engine of the existing avatar game

[HufweMakto]

Games, comic books, prequel animations, etc.

Any of that would be good, in addition to the fact that Avatar is going to be coming to the little screen soon.

[tm20]

i just want to read that novel....

[akgeff]

i just want to read that novel....

What's the story on that? The novel was supposed to be out by now. Any idea what happened to it? Has J.C. "shelved" it indefinately?

[Sanjwale]

it isn't too bad that the novel isn't out. but the problem is that JC isn't saying anything.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

yes,where is the novel? :an-sad:

36668

[prowler]

Yeah were is it :nsas:

[Sanjwale]

Yeah were is it :nsad:

this and fixed :p

[prowler]

fixed :p

Stupid phone :p