The Blame Game: Raging Against the Political Machine

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

this thread is for all-out debate,no holds barred lol,in the hotly contested arena of political he said-she said. since i hate both democraddicts and republitards with equal intensity,i will let someone fire the first shot....

areas of interest:

national debt ceiling

imperialism

wasted lives in the sand

two-faced politicians

corporate-controlled congress

brain-washing

irresponsibility

voter apathy and fraud

[Tsyal Makto]

This thread could get...interesting. But I just want to make a preemptive reminder to keep this civil. :nwink:

[DeMouse]

I will respond to each category in image format

national debt ceiling
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imperialism
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wasted lives in the sand
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two-faced politicians
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corporate-controlled congress
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brain-washing
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irresponsibility
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voter apathy and fraud
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[transcend]

you already said it all ja'k :)




national debt ceiling

imperialism

wasted lives in the sand

two-faced politicians

corporate-controlled congress

brain-washing

irresponsibility

voter apathy and fraud

[transcend]

when lies are as seen as news; what do you expect to happen then?

http://youtu.be/SurCWa8B8YU

http://youtu.be/JS1NWYV1i_E

http://youtu.be/2VPASAo2FUQ

http://youtu.be/1MjRV-UTs9o

http://youtu.be/Vzrxy9A7Ja4

[DeMouse]

Fox news is comedy gold.

I especially love how they are the first to compain about issues of "integrity" while they are pulling that crap with the editing.

[transcend]

everybody is doing it.. are you?

http://youtu.be/20a7aoPA5E0

[DeMouse]

everybody is doing it.. are you?

http://youtu.be/20a7aoPA5E0


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[transcend]

like or don't like that one.. :listening_headphone here is a more politically correct.. and boring.. version


http://youtu.be/V4vNYzBxdsY

[Tsyal Makto]

And another study recently came out that further confirms that Fox viewers are even less informed than people who watch no TV news. How surprising? * rolls eyes*

[DeMouse]

And another study recently came out that further confirms that Fox viewers are even less informed than people who watch no TV news. How surprising? * rolls eyes*

Its not suprising. Most of the people who watch no TV news these days spend alot of time on the internet, the single greatest sourse of knowledge that humans have ever created. I think that before long people who don't wach TV news will be more knowledgeable on average than people who watch TV news regardless of channel.

[DeMouse]

like or don't like that one.. :listening_headphone here is a more politically correct.. and boring.. version


http://youtu.be/V4vNYzBxdsY

I like the idea of basing money off time. Leaves a good baseline for judging value. If somone is doing a high skill job then they can make extra time per hour worked.

Set minimum wage as an hour per hour and scale up from there.

thoughts?

[transcend]

you will have to explain that one in more detail.. ?

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

oh that George Carlin was a riot,lol. i wish before he passed on,that he woulda had a chance to do a celebrity roast on all of Congress. :) that town needs an enema!!!

[Theorist]

this thread is for all-out debate,no holds barred lol,in the hotly contested arena of political he said-she said. since i hate both democraddicts and republitards with equal intensity,i will let someone fire the first shot....

areas of interest:

national debt ceiling

imperialism

wasted lives in the sand

two-faced politicians

corporate-controlled congress

brain-washing

irresponsibility

voter apathy and fraud

National debt ceiling, well frankly I just don't understand money. Like, when a factory loses money, and has to shutdown, and fire its workers I don't get it. The goods are still there that the factory needs. The factory is still there with all its working parts. The workers looking for work are there, and the good the factory produced is still needed. SO why is there no factory?

Imperialism, it's a nice thought that we try to help other countries, but we are mostly helping ourselves, because the only reason we get involved in world affairs is so we can make a profit from it.

Two faced politicians - "rally round the family pockets full of shells" when politicians say they support family values, but also war, it bugs me, because they get votes for saying :family values" then they want to take us to war, which seems to be the opposite of family values to me.

Corporate controlled congress - has anyone ever seen the movie Mr. Smith goes to washington? If not, it's a pretty good example of corporate controlled congress

Brain washing - we are taught from such an early age how important our country is. Personally I'm not too huge a fan of mine. I think we should be past countries now, and realize Earth isn't made up of lines drawn on a map; it's made up of people. The least we can do is pretend to like each other.

irresponsibility - BP? war on terror, the modern red scare.

voter apathy and fraud - it seems like there isn't enough time to get involved. If I go to school, study, run, workout, my day is over and it's time to start a new one, not much time to get to a political rally, not to mention I don't really have the money to lobby in congress. What should I saw "Oh hey mr. boehner (pronounced buhr-nuh, not bay-ner) I got 5 bucks, how about I take you out to a fancy meal at subway, and can split a $5 foot long, while we talk about funding for the epa?"

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

the national debt ceiling is the very stretched limit to which we can push the debt and still pay the interest payments on that debt,and have enough money left to fund the federal budget,support the armed forces,and pay all the entitlements owed to retirees,pensioners,gov't politicos and non-retired social security collectees. unfortunately for future generations,that maximum debt ceiling was reached under the first Bush after the colossal expenditures of the Gulf War in 1990-91,to the tune of 4.6 trillion,and that figure was estimated that it would take 35 years of interest payments to pay down that debt,provided that inflation and new taxpayer levels remained relatively normal. LOL....since then,every Congress and President has raised the debt ceiling,increased federal spending,and the inflation level has been all over the board,high unemployment levels,recession,market crashes,and there are fewer people paying taxes today than in 1992,as many of the 1 percent rich are hiding their money overseas to avoid high taxes in the 48-60 percent range. now,the national debt is in the 14 trillion range,give or take a trillion,lol,and there is no way that debt can ever be paid down unless we sell off territories,states,national landmarks,overseas bases,etc,or maybe these countries that hold our loan markers in the form of federal bonds,decide to forgive us our debt,as we have forgiven theirs many times in the past. yeah,like that'll happen.

someone said in 2010,that every single person of the current 337 million population of the United States,owned a $38,500 chunk of that national debt,and that was then. *shaking my head*

[prowler]

I blame everyone :) lol

[DeMouse]

you will have to explain that one in more detail.. ?

In the video you linked. He talked about the alternative time currency somtimes used in japan for looking after the elderly. I think it is a really cool concept.

[transcend]

yea .. time exchange is cool.. hopefully some banker wouldn't exploit it.. what i think is the most relevant or interesting point is that there is really no lack of work.. like taking care of mom.. or pulling weeds for that matter.. that is why the ccc was so cool.. it was a program that was a forest army.. young people were employed who planted trees and rebuilt infrastructure.. and it produced great results..
and that story is another story of the evil corp killing it too.. :,(
:)

[DeMouse]

I don't think the problem is that there is a lack of work. I ihnk its that people expect too much work. In modern western society the technology is great enough that people shouldn't need a full-time job to support themselves.

But i tihnk that is a societal problem that has to change befor ethe politics can.

[transcend]

i imagine that right now you are feeling a bit like alice..

http://youtu.be/arcJksDgCOU

http://youtu.be/pHte24GGHD4
do you know what i am talking about..? do you want to know?

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RDA evolution (random picks)

http://youtu.be/BwEkpB4feN0

http://youtu.be/VM5Yv-TbzJU

http://youtu.be/8y06NSBBRtY

http://youtu.be/xhZk8ronces

http://youtu.be/uVrLQdmLtF4

http://youtu.be/ejym4mKelhM

http://youtu.be/luuZvkNOQMA

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http://youtu.be/LJyfmanqYc8

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http://youtu.be/elM_FVZ_fM8

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http://youtu.be/uXbKLyP_9ac

http://youtu.be/nE2SdF1fN4s

http://youtu.be/zoqmH49VBC0

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http://youtu.be/wV1lZMTCqf8

http://youtu.be/97nAvTVeR6o

[Tsyal Makto]

http://youtu.be/wV1lZMTCqf8


I love that man.

[transcend]

check this out.. there goes the constitution

WASHINGTON (AP) — Ignoring a presidential veto threat, the Senate moved methodically Thursday to complete a massive defense bill that would deny suspected terrorists, even U.S. citizens seized within the nation's borders, the right to trial and subject them to indefinite detention.
The Senate rejected an effort by Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein to limit a military custody requirement for suspects to those captured outside the United States. The vote was 55-45. Feinstein, D-Calif., said her goal was to ensure "the military won't be roaming our streets looking for suspected terrorists."
The issue divided Democrats with nine senators, many facing re-election next year, breaking with the leadership and administration to vote against the amendment. Republicans held firm, with only Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky, Mark Kirk of Illinois and Mike Lee of Utah backing Feinstein's effort.
Overall, the bill would authorize $662 billion for military personnel, weapons systems, national security programs in the Energy Department and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.....


all brought to you by the real world RDA :an-sad:

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

I love that man.

love George Carlin. rest in peace.sir.
"the american dream...you have to be asleep to believe it!" wow...truer words were never spoken. thanks for posting this,Transcend.:)

[transcend]

US Constitution under attack by RDA

http://youtu.be/eEMDX2iuHyI

[transcend]

http://www.avatar-forums.com/images/imported/2011/12/49.jpg

this is copied from another forum

ShadowDancer says:
December 3, 2011 at 8:01 am (http://www.infowars.com/senate-bill-would-have-allowed-americans-to-be-detained-even-after-they-had-been-found-innocent/comment-page-2/#comment-2864312)

21 more shopping days until Christmas, Europeans. Maybe they won’t round up for Custerville Heights Fema Camp until after Christmas? Maybe the Merchants have told them, Noooo, we have to line our pockets with more money first.

I wrote a short story where Jesus comes back to earth as a human being and he wants a Cut off the Profits from the Merchants using his name to Sell Product to line their greedy pockets, and they shoot him. Jesus goes around to all your greedy sleazy tax free Churches asking for a Cut of the Profits for using his name to get rich, and they shoot him. How about a Tv show where Jesus just kind of hangs out with the homeless, and maybe us Indians, called, Everyone Is Getting Rich off of Jesus Except Jesus. Jesus is wondering around and Christians try to hustle him to their Church and “Convert” to their Religion and Politics. They keep trying to get him, “Saved” and tell him all about himself. They tell Jesus he has to vote for Ron Paul, and Jesus says, I don’t vote, and Ron Paul never rule in the Kingdom of Heaven, and that’s freedom. Jesus tells them there isn’t any Senate of Rome that rules in the Kingdom of Heaven, and the cretin idiots say, Huh? What? And then Jesus adds, That’s freedom. Who knows, maybe Creator/God/God Almighty’s idea of Freedom and your idea of Freedom are two different things altogether. If they ever do start rounding you up what can I say except, Welcome to the Rez. Don’t shoot, Europeans, I am just an old dumb stupid Indian. I am just passing through your lunatic insane asylum rat race cash register world upon the earth. Have a Happy Meal at McDonalds. Rez living isn’t all that bad. Kick back in the old Lazyboy Recliner. Watch some Tv. You’ll get used to Custeville Heights Fema Camp in hardly no time at all. Maybe they give you some poison **** killer called, Round Up, to kill the weeds in Custerville Heights Fema Camp? Big time, huh? Be just like your at home. Maybe they will have some John Deere riding lawn mowers for you to keep the grounds of Custervilled Heights Fema camp neatly mowed. Be just like your at home. Be just like your in your White Boy Heaven on Earth now. Gomer says, Hey. Maybe they will have Tv for you. Be just like your at home. See if Granny cooks up some Possum Pie for Jethro. You have nothing to worry about at all because it will be just like your at home. What do you do now except work, eat, poop, shop, watch some Tv, get on the Net, blah blah blah, this, that, and the other. Maybe they will put in putt putt golfing so you can get in your golfing, too. Be just like your right at home. Blah blah

playing taps for the u.s. constitution and bill of rights

http://youtu.be/nJ9VZixY7-0
http://youtu.be/Lu7hxguhFfI

Do you really trust the RDA for your safety?

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

.........paging Ron Paul. :):):)

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

here are some political/cultural funny maps of how we see america and others see us....some are lol and some are a bit ironic or cynical. :) just some funny stuff from the net.

new yorkers see america

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texans see america


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west virginians see america

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californians see america

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america and europe


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[transcend]

http://youtu.be/9z0o_MAU0ao

Civil Disobedience (Resistance to Civil Government) is an essay by American transcendentalist Henry David Thoreau that was first published in 1849.


Thoreau's Civil Disobedience espouses the need to prioritize one's conscience over the dictates of laws. It criticizes American social institutions and policies, most prominently slavery and the Mexican-American War.http://www.avatar-forums.com/images/imported/2011/12/1.php?ord=447632531Thoreau begins his essay by arguing that government rarely proves itself useful and that it derives its power from the majority because they are the strongest group, not because they hold the most legitimate viewpoint. He contends that people's first obligation is to do what they believe is right and not to follow the law dictated by the majority. When a government is unjust, people should refuse to follow the law and distance themselves from the government in general. A person is not obligated to devote his life to eliminating evils from the world, but he is obligated not to participate in such evils. This includes not being a member of an unjust institution (like the government). Thoreau further argues that the United States fits his criteria for an unjust government, given its support of slavery and its practice of aggressive war.Thoreau doubts the effectiveness of reform within the government, and he argues that voting and petitioning for change achieves little. He presents his own experiences as a model for how to relate to an unjust government: In protest of slavery, Thoreau refused to pay taxes and spent a night in jail. But, more generally, he ideologically dissociated himself from the government, "washing his hands" of it and refusing to participate in his institutions. According to Thoreau, this form of protest was preferable to advocating for reform from within government; he asserts that one cannot see government for what it is when one is working within it.
http://www.avatar-forums.com/images/imported/2011/12/4.gif
here is a link to the full text.. it is one of the best essay's you may ever read
Civil Disobedience (http://art-bin.com/art/odisob.html)


here is another right on the money civil dis video

http://youtu.be/3osxHwsub1M

[transcend]

ok.. it's time for real world RDA truth.. i will probably make some enemies and maybe even get kicked out of af.. but the truth is the truth and it should be told.. james cameron knew it when he bravely produced avatar..

if you don't want to hear this then say you don't.. and i guess lon will have to decide if he wants me to continue.. but.. here goes...

WHO ARE THE ILLUMINATI? the richest .0001% are who is known as the illuminati.. basically, they are the king & the pope.. the rockerfellers and the rothchilds.. the secular zionists.. and the super rich making money off of other peoples suffering and robbing the poor.. they are the pinnacle of power and money

IS THE MEDIA CONTROLLED.. yes.. that is obvious to anyone paying attention

WAS 911 A DEMOLITION? yes.. that is a fact of physics

IS THE WAR ABOUT TERRORISM?.. no.. it is about oil

IS CLIMATE CHANGE MAN MADE? yes.. but perhaps a more important topic is ocean ph and toxic smog everywhere..

IS HEMP CONTROLLED.. duh.. is that even worth answering?

IS THERE A REAL WORLD RDA? yes.. they are exxon/mobile and royal dutch shell.. and smaller oil companies.. they are also the military industrial complex and pharmacies and monsanto..etc..


more to come

[transcend]

the people who own and control most of everything on the planet are at the very top.. and we are talking trillions not billions
http://www.avatar-forums.com/images/imported/2011/12/213.jpg

the curve looks like this
http://www.avatar-forums.com/images/imported/2011/12/214.jpg

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http://youtu.be/GpSx3v2Dd-o
starting with the history of the people at the top

http://youtu.be/0kW-z7gUbuI

http://youtu.be/q8cm3tA8QJ8

http://youtu.be/W96GLQ8bpew

won't post endless video on this subject.. i know you get the idea

[transcend]

media lies.. and no i don't expect you to watch them all :smiley_simmons:


http://youtu.be/ZiW_Iz3xTuA

http://youtu.be/XdqPATiKvSg

http://youtu.be/tAsDBP6EwKo

http://youtu.be/IalNDTTtk2U

http://youtu.be/1MjRV-UTs9o

http://youtu.be/JS1NWYV1i_E

http://youtu.be/Yn7_8QL2weQ

http://youtu.be/oGqPxn7njqM

http://youtu.be/0ndwQDFhzHc

http://youtu.be/FEpoNdOF1Zw

http://youtu.be/3hDejIHc1XI

http://youtu.be/K_xXAK63zVI

nuf said .. i don't think anyone believes fox news anymore

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who's conspiracy

a conspiracy is simply a term for a group of people committing a crime.. it is in contrast to a lone nut..


http://youtu.be/fGA99W_yang

http://youtu.be/Dctr_MoQ2cA

http://youtu.be/LPIBWB9ZKEI

http://youtu.be/UT9CiedNrdI


why are there so many conspiracy theories? the government has their own conspiracy theories they want you to believe too..

About 911
Why were the Black Boxes never recovered ?
Why didn't the FBI release the air traffic controller's protocols?
Why did the FBI not release the Flight Data Recorder info?

and yet.. they say they discovered who was responsible by finding a paper passport in the twin tower rubble. one that mysteriously survived the explosion and fire which they say melted steel.

[transcend]

physics has no agenda


http://youtu.be/CczfSxFqMc0

http://youtu.be/z8W-t57xnZg

http://youtu.be/orjHzVpz33w

http://youtu.be/sZp37I4iOcM

http://youtu.be/SlBjAZ4EFR0

http://youtu.be/x7kGZ3XPEm4

http://youtu.be/ZiFwLjCrt50

http://youtu.be/Oz1KINFxxlQ

http://youtu.be/U9nE372Ymc4

http://youtu.be/xbMu2w7fSG8

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the terrorism of oil

http://youtu.be/iDbnHrkT7Gg

http://youtu.be/-6xT4vyq4mI

http://youtu.be/DUXwSkczryA

http://youtu.be/n8uKvDf3XdQ

http://youtu.be/PepT8kol2LU

[transcend]

i thought about posting videos of polar bears dying off.. but it is just too sad :ncry:


climate change is a fact.. smog deniers are brain dead.. they worry about a carbon tax and pay 4$ a gallon in gas.. they listen to shills but not nasa, the navy, noaa and 99% of scientists

something you never hear is that there are two kinds of smog, high altitude smog produced by aircraft which creates a glazing like glass and low particulate smog which is black.. together it makes a big solar panel..

there is other proof of the damage caused by burning fossil fuels.. global dimming.. ocean acidification.. toxic smog.. etc..

global warming

http://youtu.be/MY8jGY2N6L4

http://youtu.be/QD2WTK94c1U

http://youtu.be/iig1fJ32yc8

http://youtu.be/v71Y9598Z9A

http://youtu.be/dph2SVhDFAg

global dimming

http://youtu.be/bLfBXRPoHRc

http://youtu.be/2e_XBwPHqz8

ocean ph

http://youtu.be/BLR-DtxfHPY

http://youtu.be/W9cS0rl_NyI

http://youtu.be/viTKWrMZryk

toxic smog

http://youtu.be/iofLN3qJIfg

http://youtu.be/itImv3JuBIw

of course this play list could be endless..

and then there are oil spills..


http://youtu.be/rmTMuoo0W2I

http://youtu.be/CwhlXG-fe-A

a message from the indigenous people.. save capitalism or save the earth

http://youtu.be/zO8Jw_yqEXA

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hemp.. a gift from gaia

http://youtu.be/c55A1EGdDcQ

it's legal when they want it bad enough

http://youtu.be/Ne9UF-pFhJY

http://youtu.be/H0IvZq47WAw

it's legal when they can patent it.. marinol is the pharmacy's attemp to reproduce marijuana in a pill.. and who's research is subsidized by the government

http://youtu.be/U3pVRmUHvHo

willie on the family farm

http://youtu.be/k6tA3HxA9oQ

you don't need to cut down trees for paper or building products

http://youtu.be/wRtDh6YUt-0

http://youtu.be/i4CEywP5GTI

other uses

http://youtu.be/Yfv7-Xl3K9U

http://youtu.be/9QtE5u8t6p4

http://youtu.be/2RL0yc-ynww

http://youtu.be/VakzRI8-hl4

http://youtu.be/vZvFE53JzDk
a pitch 4 liberty

http://youtu.be/lvJ2uLq295w

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RDA files

the history of the rothchilds and the rockerfellers.. of course the history of banks and imperialism is much older..

they both have a history of war profiteering and they are also the owners of the biggest oil companies in the world
the rothchilds own royal dutch shell.. rockerfellers own exxon/mobile.. they own much more as well.. they own more money then most countries..

http://youtu.be/skjgimM4Gtc

http://youtu.be/VM5Yv-TbzJU

http://youtu.be/X4P6KVOKTjM

exxon is the child of shell and now they form a patrnership

http://youtu.be/luuZvkNOQMA

http://youtu.be/p0TCdX2tQqQ

they don't give a **** about you or the environment.. although perhaps david rothchild might think about it now and then

http://youtu.be/atXXw1ayQNE

http://youtu.be/CgeEkKUpCEA

http://youtu.be/ejym4mKelhM

http://youtu.be/V2uTwxAmWSk

the prize.. oil.. a quest for power

http://youtu.be/Qspu35JG59Q

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they also own the federal reserve which of course has nothing to do with the government but is instead the big banks everyone is mad about

http://youtu.be/hEZfMruLMSI

http://youtu.be/K8eaiFmrdWY

http://youtu.be/drVy5_3pCIU

http://youtu.be/jbSH9AlgGDY

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

well,this thread has gone dead,especially in an election season like 2012. LOL

i have no hope for the Republitards,nor do i take much stock in the Democraddicts,at this point. i have voted for both parties,in my eight trips to the voting booth,2 presidential elections and 6 congressional/governor elections,and i am not a labelled voter,nor loyal to any political brand,as they are both corrupt and self-serving. i would vote for a third party in a heartbeat,if it actually meant more a wasted vote on some rich clown like Steve Forbes. i like some of the stuff from Ron Paul,but he is really too old to get elected. i hate to point out age,but Ron Paul,who is 77 or so,has no chance against a 50 something Obama,or even some of the republitards in their 50s. youth pretty much wins in the present political climate,and i still completely lol when i hear 50 referred to as 'youth' in political discussions and debates.

i still don't think the FAUXnews clowns have recovered from Obama's birth joke yet,lol,and while i'm not the biggest supporter of Pres. Obama,i did vote for him because i couldn't stand the waffling McCain and his assclown vice-pres. pick,palin. god,i couldn't stand that two-faced loser who made a complete joke of herself on SNL. i was no fan of the Clintons either,and was really tired of eight years of Bush and his oil wars. i figured Obama could bring something new to the game,so i voted for him. i'm still not sure about 2012,but there is no republitard i would vote for,at all. i don't understand how a mormon like romney is their front runner candidate. mormons are like muslims,political poison. *shaking my head*

here are gifs of Obama's birth joke,and i still lol,because i really despise FAUXnews.(and FOX for cancelling highly-rated Firefly,grrrrrr)

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anyone voting in the 2012 pres. election?

[DeMouse]

I hope obama wins just so at the very least we can make it though another 4 years without SOPA and PIPA getting pushed through.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i sincerely hope this ACTA-SOPA-PIPA internet nightmare drives the 18-29 crowd to get out and vote,make your voices heard,do the OCCUPY thing,anything...this blatant censorship cannot be tolerated. also,do not buy merchandise and services from the 200 companies that support this anti-freeom of speech garbage.

[Foxhound]

I hope obama wins just so at the very least we can make it though another 4 years without SOPA and PIPA getting pushed through.
You do know that Obama has a very bad track record with what he says and what he does.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

hopefully this bump post gets us onto page 6....all those damn videos are dragging down my load time. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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[prowler]

Wow that is alot of videos.. O_O

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

ah,finally,a new page. *sigh of relief* i have some political stuff i want to put in here in a bit,but that damn page5 of videos was seriously screwing with my clunky pc. :/


thanks,Prowler :) *lifts a Monster toast*

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[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i found my 2008 Voter Registration Card while i was going through some boxes of old bills,forms,and tax junk,today. i'm doing taxes this week,btw. two things that absolutely drive me nuts about the state of the country i live in....insane taxes and fees,and lying,corrupt,crooked politicians that want to keep me off of AF,tumblr,and demono-er,whoopsie:embarrassed:

eff u,taxman :angry:

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[Eternal Enigma]

This seems like the best place for these.

http://www.avatar-forums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37119&d=1328466116

http://www.avatar-forums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37120&d=1328466221

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[prowler]

^
Sad but true..

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i still cannot believe that an aspiring presidential candidate like romney would say such a stupid,ill-timed,insensitive,and class-warfarish remark like that...what an idiot. he can't get elected anyway,as mormons are pretty much the same political poison as muslims,in america.


i'm totally lol'ing at the state of stupidity of the republitard party. lol

[DeMouse]

From the prespective of the rest of the world Republicans are as bat**** as mormons anyway.

>MFW "Trickle-down economics"

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[Eternal Enigma]

From my perspective both Republicans and Democrats are in the same boat... they're enemies of the United States.

They're all millionaires.

They've both been in control.

They both play political games.

They've both screwed this country up almost beyond repair.

When something comes up they point the finger at each other.

They're playing a game... we're buying into it... they're the one's benefiting from it while we suffer. They're all in on it and they're all to blame.

I got out of the Republican VS. Democrat game a few years ago once I realized it's nothing more than a political game and WE THE PEOPLE are being played!

Don't get drug into the... "Republicans are better! No Democrats are better! Republicans screwed this country up! No they didn't Democrats screwed this country up!"

They all did it! They've both been in control recently and it doesn't matter which one is in control things just seem to continually get worse.

It's called... corruption.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

the problem is that every single third-party candidate is a lunatic,sadly. i have watched old footage of that big-eared ross perot from the 90s,geez talk about an unelectable nutbag,lol. this rich cretin even claimed during his campaign that the defunct-since-the 70s Black Panthers were out in the Arizona desert trying to kill his daughter,i kid you not. then we had another rich clown,Steve Forbes,too many skeletons and baggage in his closet. then Mr. Paul glimmered for a moment or two,but sadly sold his political soul to the republitards. *shaking my head*


we need a third party,honestly.

[_Omaticaya_]

Sorry for my off topic post, I'm just lolling looking through this thread I haven't followed at all the Pictures and Gifs :rotfl: Is that one of Obama and his birth video with Lion King real? Hahahahah

I'll say something though, my silly opinion. When I see so many issues, so many words, so many videos about different things, so many complaints, it kind off makes me feel like 37169

LOL I wouldn't know where to start discussing you know, I feel the 'political machine' we're up against, is too big, vast and strong sadly :/// Call me ignorant or apathy guy, but I don't see how any major change can be done... We'll still always pay taxes, work, go and vote, buy petrol and all that... All I can do is try and reduce all that as a personal life choice. The big issues you people mention, are serious and I admire you for trying to ACT aganist ACTA (fail pun intended) but I donow... The world is in the wrong hands, **** it. 37170

[Ximphron]

"...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..."

[Theorist]

"US elections: no matter who you vote for, money always wins"

"No matter who you vote for, you still end up voting for the same damn person."

[transcend]

http://youtu.be/TZwhzf8NC4o

[Theorist]

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[_Omaticaya_]

^Incredible how drastically Eloquent a little picture can be...

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

^ agree'd...such a chilling and truthful cartoon. :/


this is an election year,and weirdly i can't find much on this upcoming election....are people just not into it this election cycle,or something?...odd

[Tsyal Makto]

Banker Tells 99% To Screw Themselves, Tips 1% on Bill (http://www.inquisitr.com/198219/banker-tells-99-to-screw-themselves-tips-1-on-bill/)

Stay classy, 1%. Though you might want to get used to the taste of spit in your food.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

Banker Tells 99% To Screw Themselves, Tips 1% on Bill (http://www.inquisitr.com/198219/banker-tells-99-to-screw-themselves-tips-1-on-bill/)

Stay classy, 1%. Though you might want to get used to the taste of spit in your food.





just when i thought i had seen it all...oh geez. this is disgusting,and i feel the server's pain,as i was a busboy/prep-cook/waiter at a family restaurant for two years in high school,and i saw some really bad customers and tips. but this takes the cake,sadly. *shakes head in utter disgust*






i am the 99%

[Tsyal Makto]

Lou Dobbs blasts 'insidious' Hollywood plot | MNN - Mother Nature Network (http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/arts-culture/blogs/lou-dobbs-blasts-insidious-hollywood-plot)

Lou Dobbs needs to...go away.

Forever.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i didn't even know lou dobbs was still in the land of the living,lol. what a clown....such is the 'classiness' of FAUXnews,as always.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i was watching some political stuff on the lounge tv today for a while,while i waited for a delivery at work,and i'm calling the 2012 election results today,March 16th...the next president of the United States is...wait for it. Barack Obama.

geez,the republitard party is a total assclownshow,and the only thing the democraddicts have other than Obama,is their puppet in waiting,george clooney,an insufferable and boring actor who got arrested/photo op today,at the sudan embassy protesting that darfur stuff i guess. i can't stand him as an actor,because his head keeps moving while he talks/reads cue cards,and he has this arrogance and revoltingly snide way of talking,ugh. i hope this assclown isn't taken seriously in politics,as i don't want a 10th-grade dropout with his finger on the nuclear trigger,and hollywierd holding his chain. yuck.

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[Ximphron]

I'm about certain it will be Obama again too.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i find this iphone app error to be ridiculously funny because the misspelled America ends with 'cia',as in CIA. lolz :rolleyes:


who in the hell puts a dumbass political app on their phone?!

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[Wind12]

Yea that was pretty pathetic, but then again I'm sure Biden will help balance things out by "saying something AGAIN" Im shocked they still let him speak.

[DeMouse]

The U.S. Government is a joke anyway. They just let the banks and corperations **** over their taxpayers as much as they like and then bail them out when they get in the ****.

It should have been a buyout, not a bailout. Run the banks to serve the people instead of letting them enslave your entire country.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

it is amazing how quiet this election year has been so far,hardly any scandals or major news,nothing bad on either Pres. Obama's performance or issues with candidates of either party,and third party stuff is practically non-existent. weird.

i do wish that romney moron would stop throwing around his mormon religion stuff...who gives a sh*t?!!! grrrrrrr :angry:


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[Eternal Enigma]

If Obama is the president again the only reason is because there's no one worth voting for. I'm not sure who will vote for him though because no one... and I mean no one I know is voting for Obama. People I know who voted for him the first time have told me they aren't voting for him this time. If you speak to a Black person in Texas they will tell you they are against Obama. That's why Obama is trying to secure the Hispanic vote because he knows the Black vote isn't going to be as strong this time around. Obama has been surrounded in a lot controversy lately. From his address about the Treyvon Martin case, his stance on gay marriage, the CIA scandal, and now with his "let's make illegal immigrants legal for the election year" ...you have a few controversial things to choose from and those are just the ones off the top of my head.


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I'm so disgusted with the situation in the political scene that I'm just not going to vote this year. Republicans and Democrats are politicians and politicians have screwed up what was once a beautiful country. It doesn't matter what party you vote for you're just voting for the same people.

It is not Republicans Vs. Democrats...

It's Politicians Vs. America

It's The Government Vs. The People

Republicans and Democrats work together... they make deals "I'll vote for that bill if you'll vote for this one." They work together... when the government reached up and grabbed the handle to flush this country down the toilet it was pulled by the hands of both Republicans and Democrats.

...And when our government wasn't selling us out... the national banks and huge corporations were.

If Mitt Romney gets it you'll see that not a damn thing changes it'll be like President Bush never left the White House because the same people who were in control when President Bush was in office are still in control now.

[transcend]

It is not Republicans Vs. Democrats...

It's Politicians Vs. America

It's The Government Vs. The People


something we agree on

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i have decided not to vote in the 2012 Presidential election, as a protest to both the republitards and the democraddicts. :angry:


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[Porthos1]

@Ja'k: "i have decided not to vote in the 2012 Presidential election, as a protest to both the republitards and the democraddicts. http://www.avatar-forums.com/images/imported/2012/07/19.png"

That's the spirit! That will put them in their place; that will teach them!

Take no responsibility and avoid a given right to be a part of this democracy; Just piss on it and walk away...man, thats sad...(US citizens on this thread) Why don't you'all stop your moaning and go out and do something to make a difference that can actually help.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i have better things to do, tbh, since there is no one worth voting for anyway. i did like the Ron Paul dude at one time, when he was an independent party candidate, but i have zero respect for people who change parties and ideologies. that is all.



this is not a democracy anyhow, it is a republic. and besides, no democracy is possible as long as that unpatriotic act is in effect.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i find it amusing that the republitard mormon freak romney is now parading himself around as the 'olympic savior' because of some his minor contributions to 'saving' the 2002 Olympic games in Salt Lake City, Utah. lolz. how convenient that he rolls out this political hype now as the London games are going on. really?! why should i vote for you because of crap from ten years ago...can anything you do now bring down that 16 TRILLION NAT'L DEBT??? *throws up arms in disgust at the gov't/politics of my once-great country*

[Wind12]

Personally I have to kind of side with Porthos1 on this, I am not a fan of any of the clowns that get in there any more, BUT even so I say it is better to have put my two cents in anyway( I mean we all know come Nov.6 we are either going to find out Barack Insane Obama has been re-elected or Oven Mitt Romney has won) at least when they screw it up even more( you know they will) you can rightfully say that they let YOU down. I don't think of it as "acknowledging I like on or the other" but rather I respect what my ancestors tried to do for us and even though it is being crapped on more and more, so I might as well take the 10 minutes or so out of my time to at least put some say into it. Even if you feel you have to "write a name in" I think it is better to say something than nothing at all.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i saw this earlier...LOL *rolls eyes*

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[Wind12]

^ lol.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

Mckayla has something to say.....she's not impressed. :d


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[Wind12]

her not impressedness knows no bounds ;)

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

here's a couple moar of the political unimpressedness of that oven mitt dude. :nlol:

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[Wind12]

she'll get a chance to be unimpressed alot this fall;)

[Wind12]

Everytime I think about Mitt Romney I have visions of that Arby's Mascot they had for awhile.
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[Ja'k Dawsiin]

while i'm a bit disillusioned with American politics right now, there is a really good voter guide out right now from Time magazine. though i have always perceived Time as a bit to the left, this guide is actually quite good in it's information on both candidates and their equally screwed-up parties. in bookstores now, check it out if you are voting in 2012.

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[Pandora66]

that's really scary, the older I get the more cynical and jaded I am about politics, the entire system has completely lost sight of its most important objective - taking care of the people (ALL OF THEM) not just the ones who write the biggest campaign cheques, $$$$$$ is all that matters to them it doesn't matter which party you vote for, democracy died a long time ago, you're just moving the same shells around and sometimes changing a few of the same type of pieces

[Wind12]

Yup, we just had a politician here in Missouri stick is foot in his mouth, just google Todd Akin and you will see all the "dumb **s" details. Can't you just say "I don't believe in abortion as I think there are better options" and leave it at that instead of sounding like super-jak**s. geez stupidity.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

the republitards have been invalidating all the state delegates that are nominating Ron Paul for President instead of oven mitt, including the frigging governor of Maine!!! only 5 delegate states are required for a candidate to appear at the convention as a challenger to the party favorite, and now because Ron Paul has actually got 8 states, the republitards are trying to change the rules to 10 states, which he can't achieve in time to appear at the convention. politics at it's slimiest. grrrrrrr

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

...the President is a Jedi?! ok, he gets four more years. lol your move, oven mitt. :nlol:

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[Wind12]

Well if he could use that thing to cut the deficit maybe... lol(probably a cheap chinese made one at that)

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i saw this in a political thread about healthcare and Obama/Romney in the election...lolz

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[Porthos1]

The silly season doesn't make it out here in California because...we are so blue that the Nav'vi would fit in just fine! No need to spend any money and waste our time with the dirty tricks, everyone knows where we stand.

[Wind12]

All I know is the red pill(party) spends, and spends,... and the blue one spends, and spends, and yells at the red one for spending, which they are correct at pointing out, but then continues to spend.

[Porthos1]

Is there a White pill? (As in Red, White and Blue...I know what you were thinking..naughty!)

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

the google ad on this thread asks 'which candidate is best for economic recovery?' NEITHER! they both think we can SPEND our way out of this slump, but the truth is too bitter a pill for the general public to swallow. we are beyond broke and our current fiscal situation barely allows to pay the annual interest on 16 TRILLION NAT'L DEBT, and we are borrowing against the future on those payments too. one day soon, those chinese and indian investors are gonna want to cash in their treasury bonds, and we won't be able to pay them and keep this gov't and country running too. this idiotic gov't has been basically printing worthless money since the 70s, when we went off the gold standard. *shaking my head sadly*

[Wind12]

I wonder if it would be frowned upon if I wrote "Neytiri" in the write in part of the ballot for Pres. :p

[Wind12]

Well on second thought, Jake sully, Neytiri wouldn't be eligable, but Jake might be and then Ney could still be first lady.... :p

[Porthos1]

I don't know! Jake has an accent and might not be a natural citizen. The Marines will take you as a non-citizen. I would want to see his Birth Certificate first!!!! ;-)

[Wind12]

Now you sound like Donald Trump! LOL!
With Ney around there would practically be no need for secret service :) :nsmile:

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

...i have found a new candidate. :nlol:

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[Porthos1]

^Oh Hell Yeah! My way or the highway! Rick for Pres! :encouragement:

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

if i vote, i'm writing in Rick Grimes since the republitard convention has written off/forced out the venerable Ron Paul. grrrrrrrrr :angry:

[Wind12]

hmmm I'll think about joining the Rick Grimes bandwagon... or some of us AF members could start our own... wait for it, wait for it, Neytiri Party!! Our platform would be for common sense in gov't, moar Ney pics, and that the other parties are "like babies, not know wat to do! :nsmile:

[Porthos1]

"Teylu in every mesh'kei huru and an Ikran in every Kelutral"

[Wind12]

... and our plan to deal with healthcare would be to get everyone healthier by vine,rock, and tree climbing. And National defense you ask? "speak softly and carry a big Txewk" :nsmile:

[Tsyal Makto]

I can get behind the Na'vi party. The democrats are giving the color blue a bad name (and red with the Republicans? That ship sailed a long time ago...).

So where should we hold the NNC? :nsmile:

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

saw this on a political thread on another site...lol but so true of this creampuff republitard. grrrr he is the republitard version of al gore. :angry:

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[_Omaticaya_]

*Random* The recent Huge Amounts of University Fees that grew outstandingly is Disgusting. First they say there's no Work and Jobs anymore, and everyone needs a degree, and then they do this, and make it even more expensive. I honestly don't understand why people go to Expensive ones and then have to pay off a Loan for years and years post Lauream. Why live with a burden already...

[Foxhound]

saw this on a political thread on another site...lol but so true of this creampuff republitard. grrrr he is the republitard version of al gore. :angry:


He is also either an idiot or a moron or a liar or both. And he is a warmongering, out of touch, cheating, flip flopping, scumbag who uses dirty underhanded tricks to undermine his opponents. He will never get my vote.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i remember watching the speeches of al gore back in 2000, when he was running against cowboy bush, and he had all this eco-green talk, ozone holes, carbon-footprint jazz, telling everyone he wanted to 'save' the enviroment, wanted to be the first 'environmental president', meanwhile the whole time, this hypocritical clown had mansions in three states, a private jet, and his average electric/utility bill between his Tennessee residence and three out of state residences which were using electric year-round, was about $1600 a month, and we haven't even touched on his jet fuel usage. i believe he lost the election to the cowboy, because everyone saw his hypocrisy, and he couldn't even win his home state of Tennessee in the general election. cowboy bush took TN...lolz

enter another filthy-rich two-faced fatcat named oven mitt romney. this clown tells a predominantly-workingclass crowd in Georgia, that while he would love to have the votes of lower-income voters (read poor people), he didn't need their votes to win the presidency. this assclown actually said that in the speech. *shaking my head* just once i would like to see a middle-class candidate, from EITHER party, win the election, not all these disgustingly wealthy codgers like oven mitt. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[exostrike]

*Random* The recent Huge Amounts of University Fees that grew outstandingly is Disgusting. First they say there's no Work and Jobs anymore, and everyone needs a degree, and then they do this, and make it even more expensive. I honestly don't understand why people go to Expensive ones and then have to pay off a Loan for years and years post Lauream. Why live with a burden already...

This is going to be complex.

As britian moved away from industry and towards the service sector, the amount of non-skilled jobs have decreased, meaning there is more competition for jobs meaning that people see skill/degrees as a way of making them more attractive to companies. At the same time jobs have become more technical since the computer has changed the work place. With this in mind people increasingly saw university and higher education as the way to secure a good job.

As such the John Major and Tony Blair governments set about massively increasing higher education capacity, via a number of way, such as turing Polytechnics (a type of technical colledge) into their own universities. However this created a problem, the cost of higher education was increasing naturally but also the increase in the numbers in higher education meant a higher bill for the government at the end of the day. To solve this the Tony Blair government shifted some of the cost from the government/tax payer to the student by creating tuition fees in 1998 and turning the matiance grants (money give) to loans (money to be repayed). However this had to be increased (from £1000 to £3000) as the cost of higher education increased and the government was unwilling to either make cut backs elsewhere or cause poltical damage by raising taxes to fund it.

When the coalition came in 2009 with a mission to cut public debt and reduce spending, they saw the bill for higher education as an easy target to acheive this. So they increased the fees to £9000 maximum. They thought that only the elite univeristies would go for the maximum. However due to the fact that they didn't publish thier report on the future of higher education funding the universities paniced and took thr £9000 to secure their cash flow. There is also the probablity that the conservatives believe that elite higher education should/is be reserved for the upper class, and that this is a way of disencouraging the working class from going into elite instutions.

Is £9000 a year worth a degree? With the economy as it is and low skilled jobs hard to find, young people still see higher education as a good thing and worth the price. However it remains to be seen if they will continue to see like that as the full cost of the new student loans becomes apparent to them.

[Wind12]

I can get behind the Na'vi party. The democrats are giving the color blue a bad name (and red with the Republicans? That ship sailed a long time ago...).

So where should we hold the NNC? :nsmile:


Good point, maybe a national park? Somewhere outside, that is free for everybody to come, where we could have everyone pitch in for some teylu;) and then we can send the other parties a message! :nsmile: :nwink:

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i always find it amusing, not in a lol kinda way, that republitards always preach 'family values' then have hollywood people out there stumping for them. i wish actors would shut the f**k up and just vote in private like the rest of us, and that includes you too, Dirty Harry. :angry: geez, what a moron getting up there like that, with a closet overflowing with non-family values skeletons. do these hollyweirdos even think about hypocrisy?! *shaking my head*

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[_Omaticaya_]

This is going to be complex.

As britian moved away from industry and towards the service sector, the amount of non-skilled jobs have decreased, meaning there is more competition for jobs meaning that people see skill/degrees as a way of making them more attractive to companies. At the same time jobs have become more technical since the computer has changed the work place. With this in mind people increasingly saw university and higher education as the way to secure a good job.

As such the John Major and Tony Blair governments set about massively increasing higher education capacity, via a number of way, such as turing Polytechnics (a type of technical colledge) into their own universities. However this created a problem, the cost of higher education was increasing naturally but also the increase in the numbers in higher education meant a higher bill for the government at the end of the day. To solve this the Tony Blair government shifted some of the cost from the government/tax payer to the student by creating tuition fees in 1998 and turning the matiance grants (money give) to loans (money to be repayed). However this had to be increased (from £1000 to £3000) as the cost of higher education increased and the government was unwilling to either make cut backs elsewhere or cause poltical damage by raising taxes to fund it.

When the coalition came in 2009 with a mission to cut public debt and reduce spending, they saw the bill for higher education as an easy target to acheive this. So they increased the fees to £9000 maximum. They thought that only the elite univeristies would go for the maximum. However due to the fact that they didn't publish thier report on the future of higher education funding the universities paniced and took thr £9000 to secure their cash flow. There is also the probablity that the conservatives believe that elite higher education should/is be reserved for the upper class, and that this is a way of disencouraging the working class from going into elite instutions.

Is £9000 a year worth a degree? With the economy as it is and low skilled jobs hard to find, young people still see higher education as a good thing and worth the price. However it remains to be seen if they will continue to see like that as the full cost of the new student loans becomes apparent to them.

Thankyou you for this post Exostrike, very interesting and helpful to me, being completely ignorant to these socio/economical issues, I hate it All. But It kind of makes sense I guess... Still sucks though.

[Wind12]

As of tomorrow just two more months to go... time to sit back and watch the insanity...

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

at one point in my twelve years of voting, i was a Republican because they were the only party that supported the military, then i switched sides for idealistic reasons and tired of seeing the military people coming home in coffins for a useless war(s) based on oil, and our resultant puppet gov'ts in those countries collapsing as soon as we left, then i voted a couple of times in local elections, for the independent party, only to see that vote matter less than 5%. i now find myself stuck somewhere in the middle, but there are no 'middle of the road' moderate candidates, only the right-wing religious nutjobs and the left-wing lunatics who want the broke-*** central gov't to give you everything for free. who the hell do you left-wing lunatics think pays for all the stuff that everyone gets for 'free'???! the rapidly-decreasing and heavily taxed 'middle-class', of course, or what's left of it. there is no fix here sadly, both sides want to increase taxes hugely, spend more hugely, and do less than nothing to fix the now official 16 TRILLION NAT'L DEBT. *shaking my head at our mess of the once-great USA*

[Wind12]

The conservatives aren't really conservatives, the liberals are well liberals... politics just gives me a head ache... and the media is no help... Fox=Republicans are awesome, MSNBC=Democrats are awesome, CNN= Wolf Blitzer?:p If I watch t.v. I just watch the weather channel usually( which is now just an arm of NBC):/

[exostrike]

The conservatives aren't really conservatives, the liberals are well liberals... politics just gives me a head ache... and the media is no help... Fox=Republicans are awesome, MSNBC=Democrats are awesome, CNN= Wolf Blitzer?:p If I watch t.v. I just watch the weather channel usually( which is now just an arm of NBC):/

This is mainly due to America's lack of truth and impartiality laws for television. This means that the tv stations can bend the news to their poltical views. In the UK TV is required to be impartial (apart from the UK FOX channel which is legally a entertainment channel to escape the law) so this kind of poltical news manipulation goes on in the newspapers.


Generally I would advise you to use which ever channel is closest to your poltical tastes, and failing that just use reuters which has no poltical spin on its publications, mainly because it sell its reports to other news channel who do the spinning.

Business & Financial News, Breaking US & International News | Reuters.com (http://www.reuters.com/)

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

This is mainly due to America's lack of truth and impartiality laws for television. This means that the tv stations can bend the news to their political views. In the UK TV is required to be impartial (apart from the UK FOX channel which is legally a entertainment channel to escape the law) so this kind of poltical news manipulation goes on in the newspapers.


Generally I would advise you to use which ever channel is closest to your poltical tastes, and failing that just use reuters which has no poltical spin on its publications, mainly because it sell its reports to other news channel who do the spinning.

Business & Financial News, Breaking US & International News | Reuters.com (http://www.reuters.com/)









fox news covered the republitard convention in it's entirety, duh, and also covered much of the democraddict convention as well, but not one of the sh*tty networks or commienewscnn or cable even covered ONE MINUTE of the republitard convention, and they all literally fought each other tooth and nail, to cover the democraddict crapfest. that should tell you all you need to know about the 'fairness' in the american trashmedia. grrrrrrr

i can proudly say that i watched not one second of either convention, nor do i give a flying eff what either sh*tty party has to say or offer. neither party has any clue how to fix the mess we are in, nor has the voting public any stomach for buckling down and doing what needs to be done. but oh yes, that same public of fat couch potatoes can watch fake celebrities with huge rear-ends parade around and talk about useless crap on the 'future' of this country. *shaking my head at the sheer idiocy of america*

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[Wind12]

Wow, I got an add for JayNixon just under your sig Ja'k... dang the internet is following me. Oh, well usually when I watch the news it is if there is something weather related going on as for politics I will watch a three to some extent( although I don't really follow politics as much as I used to because they are all full of crap) I am on the internet more than watching tv for news anyway.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

^ makes you wonder just how much the intrusive jack-booted thugs of our gov't are watching/following us. thanks a lot, unpatriotic act and google. grrrrr :angry:

[Wind12]

Well they would get bored watching me, mop the kitchen floor with bleach water, and drinking pepsi;)

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i got something the jack-booted thugs of homeland gestapo can watch.....:angry: grrrrrrrrrrr

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[Pandora66]

I feel bad for our American neighbours, your choice is that you really have no choice, both parties sold out to corporate interests decades ago when they allowed them to start outsourcing your manufacturing sector to the cheapest countries on the planet, it's been a quick slide downhill ever since with no change on the horizon, the 2 class system has taken root.

[Tsyal Makto]

I use RT and Al Jazeera. It's a shame that to get news about my country, I have to go to news from another country. What a world...

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i was rather annoyed to see then-governor Bill Clinton on the Arsenio Hall show in one of the political flashback shows on CNN, but now we have to see a sitting-President appearing on the David Letterman Show?! wow, the White House position has sunk to a new low, but then what do you expect from the jersey shore generation?! i'm only a few years older than today's generation, but even i thought the President and White House had some class....guess i was wrong. *sighs sadly*

[Wind12]

Yea it has become like a high school popularity contest or something, the average person probably doesn't even know what the candidates (supposedly) stand for( then again the candidates probably don't know that either:/)

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

some candidate humor since this race is boring and predictable.

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[Wind12]

^ wow...

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i find it ironically amusing that mitt romtard is against abortion, but he signed an abortion clause for his son Tagg's surrogate birth mother, because he was paying some of the bills in the arrangement. apparently, the son Tagg and his wife couldn't conceive, so they used a surrogate mother, and had twins, but daddy mitt had to help with the costs, and therefor had to sign consent forms and other legal arrangements in case of medical or the woman not wanting to give up the child or children. one of the clauses was for abortions in non-life threatening situations.


republitards, of which oven mitt is one, only believe in abortion for incest, rape, and life-threatening health situations to the mother.


republitard mitt signs approval of non-life threatening abortion clause.


do you not see the inherent hypocrisy and irony here?!


do as i say, not as i do.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i saw this on the rude pundit political page...so darn true. geez, let's work on the 16 TRILLION national debt, shall we?! morons. :angry:

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[Wind12]

Well, I agree that it's going to be tough for Mitt to deal with the fact that HE started what became Obama Care( kind of funny in a non-funny sense), although I think the writer of that thinks Obama's doing a decent job.... as the debt clock races up like the Space Shuttles used to:(. They are both full of you know what, I just can't wait until it is over with so I can get ready for Christmas, lol.

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

i am not a fan of either candidate, one the sitting President with a dubious record and fully in the pocket of hollywierd and unions, the other a complete and utter a**clown with an even more atrocious history of mediocrity, lies, hypocrisy, and religious nuttery. personally, if i do make it to the voting booth, i will probably pencil in my vote for the Green Party candidate. i am sick of the two parties, and the Libertarian party candidates are pretty much unelectable tools, as full of crap as that two-faced party jumper, Ron Paul. i lost all respect for him when he left the third party arena and sold his soul to the republitards. grrrrrrrrrrr!!!:angry: he was the only electable candidate of the current third parties. *sighs*

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[Wind12]

Well FWIW, Barack Insane Obama, and Oven Mitt are having thier first debate... oh, joy:/

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

since becoming unemployed a few days ago, and having a head full of jumbled thoughts and ideas, i have seriously lost any interest in this race and politics in general, not that i really have had that interest lately anyway. it's just that there are no candidates from any of the parties or movements, that are interesting even in the slightest. i had thought there were a couple of female governors that were considering campaigns, but i guess they had too many skeletons in their closets.


why does every interesting newcomer end up being the spawn of beelzebub?!:angry:

[Ja'k Dawsiin]

oven mitt just killed any political chance he had at getting younger voters, when he went on a rant about PBS and Big Bird, and defunding the network as a cost-cutting method to start working on the national debt. well, that was a dumb move. PBS represents like one 100th of 1% of the federal budget, and the gov't wastes BILLIONS on crop subsidies, useless space adventures, putting NON-VIOLENT potheads in the federal slam instead of legalizing and TAXING it, keeping US military and gov't employees in 150 countries, spending trillions on useless oil wars, etc etc etc. geez, he wants to save a couple of bucks by cutting the educationally-minded PBS. i loved Sesame Street when i was growing up. grrrrrr


say hello to our next President, Barack Obama.