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applejuice
11-03-2010, 03:09 PM
The Large Hadron Collider is set to collide lead ions to recreate the state of matter moments after the Big Bang, BBC is reporting (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11687912). After the unfounded rumors that stated the LHC could produce large enough black holes to destroy the Earth, I believe we can witness great new discoveries about our Universe.
stubydub
11-03-2010, 07:04 PM
i shure hope i dont see any black holes soon o.o
ftxey Keye'ung
11-04-2010, 01:58 AM
ahh don't worry, do you really think they want to blow the world up including themselves before they get the final data?
ftxey Keye'ung
11-04-2010, 01:59 AM
by the way APPLE JUICE that signature is hilarious haha! :)
applejuice
11-04-2010, 01:46 PM
ahh don't worry, do you really think they want to blow the world up including themselves before they get the final data?
Who knows... ;)
Actually, I was thinking about this joke:
http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
The Man in Black
11-04-2010, 03:14 PM
Yup, the rumors about black holes are merely theoretical (seeing as we still don't have direct evidence of black holes existence, let alone microscopic black holes), and most theories also state that even if a microscopic black hole were to develop, it would evaporate before it could even consume mass (likely due to Hawking radiation). It's just unfortunate that the LHC is barely even running at half-capacity due to some problems they had...it's not even likely to run at full capacity until 2014, if ever.
Lol, did you guys hear about the guy in Hawaii that sued CERN/the LHC for creating a "doomsday machine"?? It got thrown out on appeal, lol.
applejuice
11-04-2010, 03:52 PM
Yeah, but I believe it is impossible to get direct evidence of a black hole without being destroyed in the process.
And, really??? that guy must be out of his mind! (who is, by the way?)
And, hopefully, there won't be any more avoidable situations when they use the LHC at full power.
ftxey Keye'ung
11-05-2010, 07:03 AM
I think the fact that no person is 100% sure exactly what would happen if it did what it's designed to do which makes the far fetched theories seem more plausible...because let's face it....if it did work as planned and the higgs-god-2012-mayan-calender-particle-thingy-blah-blah was to happen...it would take them years if not decades to find a use for it and for that use to make any substantial effect of Humanity.....go figure :(
ftxey Keye'ung
11-05-2010, 07:06 AM
...skipping forward 100 years when Humans are flying around space in spaceships powered by Higg's Boson drives....vrooooom!!!!
Earth to Alpha Centauri = 31.7 seconds...and not a hair out of place...and a warm cup of coffee still waiting as you gaze down on Pandora-ermm....i mean Centauri 3 or whatever...sipping coffee like Quaritch...high and tight and home in time for supper! :)
applejuice
11-05-2010, 04:17 PM
I think the fact that no person is 100% sure exactly what would happen if it did what it's designed to do which makes the far fetched theories seem more plausible...because let's face it....if it did work as planned and the higgs-god-2012-mayan-calender-particle-thingy-blah-blah was to happen...it would take them years if not decades to find a use for it and for that use to make any substantial effect of Humanity.....go figure :(
Yeah, but the first step would have been taken. Tough, I think that once discovered, many new technologies will come just because of the new understanding of those bosons. However, that discovery could also rise many questions, probably even more abstract than those they are trying to answer.
The Man in Black
11-06-2010, 03:32 PM
Yeah, but I believe it is impossible to get direct evidence of a black hole without being destroyed in the process.
And, really??? that guy must be out of his mind! (who is, by the way?)
And, hopefully, there won't be any more avoidable situations when they use the LHC at full power.
Actually we are working hard to try and find direct evidence of a black holes existence. This can be accomplished by physically watching a large object that we know is moving simply disappear to where we have some observational evidence of a black hole. A good example of nearly enough evidence to claim a black hole's existence is the center of our galaxy. There are many stars near the center of the galaxy that we can record proper motions of, and by doing this we have derived a mass of an object at the center of our galaxy. By the process of elimination and seeing as the object emits no light, the object would have to be a black hole with such a high density and mass.
applejuice
11-06-2010, 04:38 PM
Well, as direct evidence per se, I was thinking about a piece of a black hole, which might be impossible. However, the observational evidence we have about black holes is enough to prove their existence.
The Man in Black
11-08-2010, 08:56 AM
Well, as direct evidence per se, I was thinking about a piece of a black hole, which might be impossible. However, the observational evidence we have about black holes is enough to prove their existence.
Haha, yeah, it's always interesting to learn about theories that attempt to explain what goes on in/around a black hole. As far as we know, the inside is just a singularity, a point of infinite density and infinitely small that you get crushed down to. But here's something I ALWAYS find interesting: the Schwarzschild radius of a black hole is the radius of the event horizon (the point of no return), and if we input the amount of matter in the known universe into the equation for it, we find that the radius would be about the size of the known universe. AHHHHHHHH, WE'RE IN A BLACK HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol
applejuice
11-08-2010, 03:20 PM
Well, the experiment went as planned. The temperatures reached in the collision were in the order of trillions of Celsius degrees and now the scientists are analysing the data from the experiment. They are trying to study the strong force which binds subatomic elements together.
applejuice
11-17-2010, 01:03 PM
Cern reports to have trapped 38 anti-hydrogen atoms in their Alpha Antihydrogen trapping project. They managed to confine them for about 200 milliseconds in a magnetic bottle.
ftxey Keye'ung
11-17-2010, 02:36 PM
WHOOOO...AWWWWWW
Anti-Hydrogen....enlighten me please? :)
applejuice
11-17-2010, 04:11 PM
WHOOOO...AWWWWWW
Anti-Hydrogen....enlighten me please? :)
Well, matter is composed of electrons, protons and neutrons. Electrons have a negative charge, protons have a positive one and neutrons have no charge. Antimatter is the opposite: Electrons have a positive charge, protons are negatively charged and neutrons have no charge, they are named Positrons, Antiprotons and Antineutrons, respectively. It is speculated that when the Universe took form, there were equal amounts of Matter and Antimatter, but for reasons yet unknown, matter (as we know it) prevailed. When matter and antimatter interact, a phenomenon know as Annihilation of Matter occurs. It means that matter and antimatter combine to form energy, usually in the form of Gamma Rays.
Antihydrogen is an atom of Hydrogen formed by a Positron, Antiproton and a Antineutron, it's counterpart, Hydrogen is formed by an electron, a proton and a neutron. It's difficult to produce antimatter as it requires large amounts of energy and as soon as it interacts with matter, Annihilation takes place. Cern managed to confine a few atoms of antihydrogen using magnetic fields to prevent the antimatter atoms from interacting with matter.
Dusso Janladde
11-17-2010, 06:16 PM
You can actually see what the LHC is doing in real-time here (http://op-webtools.web.cern.ch/op-webtools/vistar/vistars.php?usr=LHC1). It's a bit hard to understand, the main thing is that when it says "stable beams" at the top, collisions are occurring.
applejuice
11-19-2010, 01:16 PM
That's what I call jargon...