remaining humans: if they need medical treatment?

[Harrie]

I guess if someone of the remaining humans needs medical treatment, there would be a problem. Are there any physicians left? If so, probably only a general practitioner. But what if they need special treatment, surgery, a dentist? And they can't just go back to earth.

[Imperius Dictatio]

Stick them in Cryo till they get back to Earth.
Problem solved.

[Aihwa]

Stick them in Cryo till they get back to Earth.
Problem solved.

^ this


In fact, they could probably triage them in storage and have most serious injuries treated before they got back to earth.

[SnowRider]

But the remaining humans aren't going back to Earth. They're staying on Pandora.

[Aihwa]

ahhh...

I see what your talking about then.

Well, I'd have to assume that technology has advanced to the point where such options are easily accomplished by less than skilled persons. ((And every one of them seems to be a PH.D in some form of lifescience. So I think they'd be set...))

[SnowRider]

Possibly, as long as their medical machines and technology remain functional.

When that starts to break down, as it will eventually ...

[Imperius Dictatio]

Or that they know how to operate said machines.
Or the power holds out.
Or the supplies dont run low.

[Aihwa]

The base was designed to run for years and support several thousand workers. I think it could hold several hundred for quite some time...

[SnowRider]

But the human base on Pandora almost certainly requires a certain minimum number of qualified people to run the equipment, maintain the base, keep everything going, manufacture new parts to replace old, broken, worn out parts, etc.

If the only humans that are left are the science staff and the avatar drivers, that is almost certainly nowhere near the number of humans needed to run the machines, and just because there are Ph.D.'s there on the science staff, does not mean they know how to run everything.

Sooner or later, things will start to break down and can't be repaired. If there is no more supplies (i.e., people and machinery, as necessary) coming from Earth, the remaining humans will find themselves in a very bad situation.

Their medical needs will be the least of their worries if the base starts to fall apart, which it will almost certainly do over the course of time if there are not enough trained, qualified people to run and maintain it.

[Imperius Dictatio]

Until something breaks down.
Or the jungle moves back into the base and tears it up.
Or the power plant/generators break down.

The only folks left are Scientists. And not Scientists that could create a television and generator out of bamboo and coconuts. (Gilligans Island reference.)
But Botanists, Anthropolgists, Linguists and the like.
Meaning they're SoL if something breaks or needs maintenence.

[Aihwa]

They're also capable of growing bodies that are easily usable in the Pandoran environment. So I doubt they'd be there for more than a few years.

[Zapgun]

Except those bodies required lots of resources to create, and they were not created on Pandora, but shipped over from Earth so they could mature on the way. They cannot create bodies for themselves, they probably lack the equipment.

[Imperius Dictatio]

Yeah, something like 20 million dollars a meat sack.
And each Meat Sack had to be made and grown on Earth first. (No sign of any facilty used to grow the Meat Sacks
Then grown in-transit (Roughly four year journey.)

They wont be growing any new bodies.

[Aihwa]

But they have something that the creators on Earth did not. Direct access to Na'Vi genetic material, including actual cellular tissues.

We don't know what kinds of costs were involved in their creation, or materials.(they had to ship materials back and forth between pandora and earth to create them the first time, and thats costly) Now the basic observed materials they need are obviously the test tubes themselves (which they have from shipping the avatars across.) And the equipment to splice genetic strains. Which due to the natures of their research, (and again, lots of life science doctorals among the remaining) would probably be available.

[Imperius Dictatio]

Doesnt mean anything if they dont have the technolgy, equipment and know-how to produce Avatar Meat Sacks.
We did get a figure at the cost for making a Avi meat Sack. Roughly 20 million dollars.
Shipping basic Na'vi genetic material the first time wouldnt be all that hard.

Regardless. There is no evidence that they could make Avatar Meat Sacks at the facilty.
And they had to ship Meat Sacks from Earth.
All in all thats pretty telling.

[tm20]

to OP, i was thinking for this some time ago as well. Medical treatment would probably only be something like treating wounds/broken bones etc... no diseases or colds/flus. I read somewhere (forgot where) that there are no diseases on Pandora, and humans cant get sick. it's crazy but that makes things alot easier in terms of staying healthy. As for getting hurt, i guess they just have to reast until they heal or tend to each other the best they can (there could be a doctor, if not they just have to use what knowledge they have of treating injuries) but eh, whatever that doesn't kill you only makes you stronger :nsmile:

[Imperius Dictatio]

No diseases? On a planet thats almost entirely jungle?
WTF?

[Aihwa]

Imperius, remember that the world is so balanced its almost creepy. And it does state in the survival guide that there are no diseases native to Pandora.

[Imperius Dictatio]

........*Starts beating head into wall*

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[Zapgun]

That would be biologically impossible, all it would take is a disease strain that attacks a weakness, like those na'vi lines directly into their nervous system, there are parasites and diseases on earth that take control of Ants and make them basically commit suicide to further the parasites life cycle, Zombie Nation Pandora.

Eywa controls minds, not genetic material or rouge prions.

[tm20]

cool story bros