I Love Pandora, i love everything what is there and everyone

[skrippi]

hi,
i'm from germany. since i have seen the movie i was in love... it is the best world i have ever seen. i would do everything to become one of the Na'vi. it is that beautiful, no fences, no problems, no appointments. you're free, like a bird, you can fly, ride and do what you want. THIS is real life.
Our world is that bad in opposite with Pandora. Everything is fine, glowing flowers and many of nice people around you.
To find someone like Neytiri would be the best in my life, it would be fulfilled.
As i have heard to this sound, my tears came down:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQFRgbnpO9E

I hope this planet exists and nobody could change my mind!


What about you? Would you do everything to become one of the Na'vi?

[Sempu]

Oel ngati kameie. We can but hope to improve our own planet and live Pandora within our hearts. Strength, brother!

[skrippi]

Oel ngati kameie, masempun. sure, this is true. but being a Na'vi is better than everything! Better than 10,000,000 $ or something like that!

but maybe in 20 years we are intelligent enough to go out there and when this will happen, i wont stop searching for pandora! it's my dream of life. look at some pictures, this is paradise, tha water, the creatures and animals, the way they live in trees and so on.

[avatardreamer]

you said as a Na'vi your free? sry, but i cant admit you 100%. Whatever we have been seen in this movie, it dont shows the "daily life". I think living on Pandora is hardly idyllic.
feel free to corret meeeh
BTW im also from germany

[Fighter-of-Wars]

Living on Pandora is many peoples dream as it is mine. Here, to be normal you go to school, get a job, raise a family, retire, and die. A few things here and there in between but that's the main parts. On Pandora you work only to better yourself, family and the tribe. No boss always behind you telling you what to do, no bills, no pesky neighbors telling you how your house and yard should look, fresh water in creeks, good food just a hunt or stroll away. And there is never a dull moment.

[skrippi]

i think it's idyllic and you can be free too f.e. when flying with your banshee or something else.
and you're right, it's not the real life they show us, but i think it's much more easily to live there than is our destroyed world...
f.e. you know everybody, cause they are all in your clan and living in trees and in a forest that glows in the night, wooaaah, i love it!

[skrippi]

@ fighter-of-wars: this is what i mean!
i can't sleep because i think of living there every time. nothing is hard to do, you don't have to follow as much rules as here. the life-sense is much more important than this is on earth. here, you're right, you do your job, have a family and die. but there you could do thousands of things more than here. and i think this planet is much friendlier. no machineguns or industries destroying each other or the planet, no cars but instead of cars are those amazing banshees and horses. i think MUCH better than our way to get round and to live

[avatardreamer]

Living on Pandora is many peoples dream as it is mine. Here, to be normal you go to school, get a job, raise a family, retire, and die.
^that happens if you want it. You want a house, a car, a PC? you need money for that so you gotta find a job. Its my dream to leave this industrial society, after studying i wanna move to the land of my dreams
i also gotta say that there is more then one way for your "inner happiness/luck". I found mine in the music which shows me a new attitude to the world, and one part of it is: I want a lucky life. Do i have a lucky life if I am sad. No. So why am I sad? The way to have a lucky life is the way of BEEING lucky everytime, thats what i do

[skrippi]

yes if you don't like to live there you shouldn't dream of it and forget it, but i just said: nobody could change my mind! if pandora exists, i wanna go there. and look: you're just working and studiing for getting **** money! in pandora noboy needs it! they are living primitive and thats the best way to live! water, food is spended by the nature and you don't have to work for it! u need ad pc? haha then u have to stay here. but pandora is real life man! you don't need more! you don't need more....
and my inner luck is produced by dreamin' of pandora, by the hope of it. and as you can see the aboriginal people make music too. like the muski up i posted, ok it's made by a orchester but i think they have their own insturments their. in the movie you could also see them singing and this is nice too.

[avatardreamer]

they are living primitive and thats the best way to live! water, food is spended by the nature and you don't have to work
you dont have to work for food? Are you think that the animals die voluntary? Life on Pandora is harder then you think. Death waits everywhere...

[skrippi]

yeh isn't it nice? and if you would go togehter with some braves you could kill them and you have meet to eat ^^nice rhyme^^
living in nature IS the best way believe me and if not, you don't have to talk with us;) my hope never dies!

[avatardreamer]

:P its not that im telling you that your crazy or whatever, i just say that life on Pandora is not easy, but it would be my second choice if i had the choice :P

[skrippi]

its totally ok, and yes i'm crazy! hello? i'm in love with a planet^^ no ok, but everybody is a little bit crazy:P
and if you like the earth more than pandora it's nice. i just wanted to say that nothing could keep me here, if pandora exists, and I'm sure it does!
this thread is just to see, who likes pandora that much like me, and just to talk about it. for me it's nice to talk about it so i don't go totally crazy while searching and hoping for pandora and Na'vi

[Tsyal Makto]

Skrippi, you're my brother from another mother. LOL :ntongue:

Every word you say, I agree with 110%. This not the way humans are meant to live. I don't want to be a member of some civilized society, I have an untamed spirit that I wish to express freely, like the Na'vi do. I want to do what I want, when I want, where I want, and if anyone has a problem with it, they can answer to by big, blue middle finger. I want to hiss. I want to run and jump and climb. I want to ride an Ikran and dive down a canyon (try that here in a Cessna and you'd have an F-16 shooting your a** down). I don't want to follow your laws. I don't want to toil over your economy. This is my life. I'm going to die my own death one day, and unless you plan to die your own death too alongside me, then stop trying to control my life. Time to break the chains. We need more people like this guy, he's got the idea.

YouTube - Worst Office Freak Out Ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sq-HYGfnIo)

And the Na'vi features too are just so...OMG. Those pointy, moving ears, the nose, the big eyes, the tail, the neural queue, the glowing dots, the stripes...OMG...

Humans are so...weak...soft. We live our lives in fear, afraid to take any chances at anything. Most people are content with a life like Jack led in Fight Club - a little house full of Ikea furniture, a little cubicle job, etc, and if you change anything about anybody's routine, they panic...it's pathetic. Well, what do you expect when the hardest choice you have to make in a day is "paper or plastic" or "premium or unleaded?" The Na'vi have to decide where to hunt, what to do if being chased, etc. Fast food, 500 channels of TV, cars, and mainstream consumer culture have made us wads of cookie dough, while the Na'vi are carved out of wood - physically and mentally. Honestly, I am ashamed sometimes to be a member of such a feeble species. Take a look for yourself...

Human - Wow! Takes a lot of effort to grab a box of Rice-A-Roni, huh?!
http://www.avatar-forums.com/images/imported/2010/05/370.jpg

Na'vi - Now that's the way to get food! Hunt it down with your bare, blue hands!
http://www.avatar-forums.com/images/extras/not-available.gif

I keep having fantasies about what it would be like to transform the Earth biologically into Pandora. I keep feeling that all the modern infrastructure and technology we develop lies in our attempt to compensate for our biological shortcomings. We are suspectible to disease and our bodies are weak compared to the Na'vi = medicine. Food is not naturally as abundant as on Pandora = agriculture/economics. No Ikran = airplanes. No natural Hometrees = houses. No bioluminescence = electricity/lighting. If we could bioengineer these things, we could return to nature and live like the Na'vi. I keep praying that we attempt to terraform Mars or Venus, so I could put my plans into action there, too.

[Dreaming Of Pandora]

I dont know why Im posting here as writing this in text cant describe my love for Pandora. It takes a certain 'knowing' or understanding to make my words have meaning.

This was my attempt at describing my feelings for Pandora a couple of weeks ago:

Pandora defies the imagination. It's a place of incomprehendeable beauty, inviting danger and awe-inspiring spectacles. It's a place of tremendous diversity and lush colors. A place of magnificent bioluminescent forests, towering stone arches and gravity-defying mountains. It's a place of heart-warming harmony and peace -- a utopia in the stars. It's a place that holds an outstanding race with even more outstanding beliefs. It's a place where planetary networks question science, question imagination. It's Pandora.

Some would call it heaven, I call it home.

As some may wonder "Why does that guy love a bunch of trees instead of Neytiri?". As I said before, I cant tell, you have to truly love and dream about Pandora to fully get my feelings.

[skrippi]

to Tsyal Makto: i thank you bro! you understand me man! this is the way we have to live. hunt your food, nice, don't buy it, just get your food at your own. you don't need money! than flying on my own banshee oaaah! my dream! running thru the forest i wanna do what I whant not the laws! i don't wanna be one of those who damage the world with ****ing cars and industries. on pandora they don't need this ****! the nature gives enough light in the night and i love it! look at those beautiful glowing flowers, those monocopters which are glowing if the fly ^^ nice. and thenmy real love: Neytiri! i'm not in love with the actor Zoë Saldana, NO! i'm in love with Neytiri. She's beautiful those big eyes, the way she lovely acts and she also looks sexy, doesn't she?

You're my bro ma man! you really know what i wanted to say! the nature is that pretty and we human-bastard kill it down! pandora is nature pure the flying mountains WOOOHOOOOO i feel fre like a bird. i could me noise and nobody calls out: ey stop that! i've got planty of appointments tomorrow and if need to sleep. be quite!
NO! in nature it is loud because of animals like ikrans or so on...

i don't stop searching for pandora! i knew it is out there and one day i will go there and when god must create it for me!!! nobody could change my mind!!! i wanna be part of the Na'vi!
i now gonna watch the movie again. the 12th time! i just can't get enough!

[Sempu]

This is the sort of thread some reporter would pick on to quote... skrippi, I get it about how wonderful Pandora is, I truly do, it's one of the reasons I came here. Amen to all you said about it. Let me just ask you: why do you think you are here, on Earth, instead? Is it a cosmic accident, God's wrath, a cruel joke, or is there a reason behind it that could bring hope and light to people? Why would you wake up to realizing that what you really want is at best 20 years away? How are you going to spend the time until then?

[skrippi]

yeah, let me think about it until tomorrow. i don't think that this is that bad, that it had to be deleted. maybe some other users wanna talk about it too and this is just very friendly i think. i'm happy that i could talk to some people who understand me and what i mean. Thank you my bro's, thank you Masempu'n!
I hope this won't be deleted cause we are talking about some important things! so good night Pongu. good night Pandora!
I will write my next post tomorrow

bye

[Sempu]

No, it's not going to be deleted, don't worry about that. If ever some reporter gets a bee in his bonnet to do a story about how Avatar has had a negative effect on people (CNN already went there quoting someone's near-suicidal comment that was so rare I never found the original), this is the sort of extreme they'd pick up on. Most of them would rather do that than report on all the people whose lives have been transformed for the better. Maybe we can do something about that. We can only hope that a reporter or two is among those who have woken up.

But anyway, this is a safe place to express all your feelings. If you sound like you're hurting, people will try to help, that's how it works.

[madman]

most of the members here would love to live on Pandora, including me! Unfortunately we won't ever have the opportunity to live on another planet in our lifetimes. Especially when presidents like Obama take money away from space programs.

I would like to remind you how extremely beautiful our very own earth is and that every single animal and plant on Pandora is based on something real here on earth.

[Dreaming Of Pandora]

^ Ah the rather embarrassing days of CNN "Avatar blues" articles and other reports alike. They made us out to be unstable, suicidal people. I remember one horrible article after another. Though, small at first, I think it was the start of the "criticism" towards Avatar but didnt really take off until a month or two later.

[Grey Wolf]

^ Ah the rather embarrassing days of CNN "Avatar blues" articles and other reports alike. They made us out to be unstable, suicidal people. I remember one horrible article after another. Though, small at first, I think it was the start of the "criticism" towards Avatar but didnt really take off until a month or two later. I remember those reports. That was in the beginning, before people tried to understand what Avatar really did, in fact it was before most of us knew how to handle the "Pandora Effect" that hit us after our first viewing. It was incredibly uneducated and ill-informed, but now it's all history. :)

[skrippi]

ok however. i'm just 16 years old. i haven't seen much of the earth but what i have seen is enough to say: i don't wanna live here longer! the way we damage it, the way it's bad in opposite to pandora. i don't like earth -.-
i think everything of pandora is great, the animals, the Na'vi, the nature and much more!
so i'm just glad to find people who agree me. in my class everybody says: earth is much better or i will never go to pandora or never leave earth.
they don't like danger, the like to live in houses and sit on their spoilt asses xD

i hope some other people will answer to this thread.
well, no i have some selfmade screenshots out of the movie. i think it are some of the best moments:

Download (http://www.iceload.net/wallpaper/302-avatar-aufbruch-nach-pandora-wallpaper.html#post668)

[Dreaming Of Pandora]

ok however. i'm just 16 years old. i haven't seen much of the earth but what i have seen is enough to say: i don't wanna live here longer! the way we damage it, the way it's bad in opposite to pandora. i don't like earth -.-
i think everything of pandora is great, the animals, the Na'vi, the nature and much more!
so i'm just glad to find people who agree me. in my class everybody says: earth is much better or i will never go to pandora or never leave earth.
they don't like danger, the like to live in houses and sit on their spoilt asses xD

I remember having the exact same thought as you when I first saw the movie (and I still do), that Earth sucks compared to wondrous Pandora. But then I realised how lucky I am to be on Earth.

It's tough accepting that Pandora is merely a fiction of the imagination, a creation of James Cameron, this what started the 'Pandora Effect' and I was hit hard by it.

I remember looking onto my concrete, grey city and being disgusted by the people there and what they've replaced beautiful greenland with; tall buildings and MacDonalds. I wanted out, out of here, off Earth and to be on Pandora and away from this dying, godforsaken planet. I recall hoping every night for a good month that I would magically awake on Pandora. This was the cause of my depression.

I realised that Earth is beautiful and Im so lucky to be here considering there hasnt been solid proof of another Earth in the cosmos. Ironically, to See Pandora, we must See Earth. Pandora is just a whacked-out, exaggerated form of Earth. Everything we See on Pandora was JC taking inspiration from Earth and making Pandora out of it. So if we look in the right places on Earth, we see what we see in Avatar.

Dont get me wrong, Pandora still beats Earth by miles but I'll settle for our little blue jem.

[skrippi]

yeh you are right. i now realized it too. but even so i will never stop hoping, that pandora exists. i now just accept earth because i must do it, but one day we can go out of this nightmare; on other planets. and i KNOW, pandora is out there!
so guys i will never lose my hope for it as i have said it and "Dreaming of Pandora":
i have been watching the movie every day, really every day, i watched it just now for the 13th time, amazing, isn't it?

so nice to have you here.

Oel ngati kameie

[Tsyal Makto]

Matrix-style virtual worlds 'a few years away' - tech - 03 April 2008 - New Scientist (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13585-matrixstyle-virtual-worlds-a-few-years-away.html)

There's also this to look forward too. :nwink:

[tawtute_tsamsiyu]

I've noticed some of you are neglecting the Earth in favor of Pandora. Don't get me wrong, I <3 Pandora so much, you wouldn't believe it. I watched Avatar the for the first time 2 days ago, and my fourth time watching it was yesterday (which I took notes on just for fun, trying to learn more of what the Na'Vi have to offer). Every time Avatar ended, I felt sad. Sad that I would never be a Na'Vi, an Avatar, and sad that I'll never be able to visit the nonexistent Pandora.

I guess you could say I had caught a whiff of the Pandora effect: I was gloomy and the world seemed gray. Every time I thought about the movie, I had to fight back tears. All of the sudden, the PB&J I've eaten for lunch so long at school just seemed unappealing after a few bites, and I had to do with animal crackers and water. Today, I didn't even touch my lunch.

But then I came across this beauty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3mQu79aWrg). It's a video I found on YouTube. If you look past the corporate greed (and yes, the narrator does hint towards this), you'll see that the Earth is a wonderful and technologically advanced place that is such an honor to live in. If I was asked if I wanted to go to Pandora, my answer would be: "Hell yes", but until then you have to realize that the beauty of Pandora is within the Earth. It takes skill to see it.

This may or may not help: W.W.N.D (What would Neytiri do?)

[Samael]

I've noticed some of you are neglecting the Earth in favor of Pandora....

you'll see that the Earth is a wonderful and technologically advanced place that is such an honor to live in. If I was asked if I wanted to go to Pandora, my answer would be: "Hell yes", but until then you have to realize that the beauty of Pandora is within the Earth. It takes skill to see it.


This was a good post Tawtute.
And I especially enjoyed these statements. which I took the liberty to quote.

I too think that Pandora is a world of incredible beauty.
But we got to appreciate where we come from. The place that inspired and visualized the dream of Pandora. Not to mention, so many other dreams.

Yes there are lots of evils taking place on the earth. We can not deny that fact.
But there is equally as much beauty and love still to be found.
And I do not think J. Camerons motives to create Avatar was to awaken emotions of hopelessness, hate or indifference towards Earth or its inhabitants.
But rather the contrary, to appreciate, love, improve, and take care of what we already have.

As a specie we are young and naive, and we have to learn how to handle our technological and ideological progress in the appropriate manner.
But that is something which takes experience and time. Even a child has to get burned, before it can fear the fire. So consider our specie, our past and current errors as an ignorant child still learning.

I would urge all to check out this little speech by Carl Sagan made more then 30 years ago in his documentary series "Cosmos".
It still holds relevance and truth to it, and the conclusion is similar to the lesson we need to take home from Pandora. And it might make some of you consider earth from a new perspective.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M&feature=related

[CiaphasCain]

Pandora? I'd love...



... to hit it with a ten ton block of U-238 moving at .7C.

[Theorist]

For me, well Pandora already exists. I have seen it in the movie, I have dreamed up pictures of it. It is inside my mind, the only place that truly matters. I already have decided that I am going there. First I'm going to live this life trying to explore as much of the world as possible. Yeah, some might say that trying to find my own food, and build my own shelter is risky. Yeah, I know I won't live as long doing it. Hell, I might barely make it to 40 doing what I wanna do. But, it's not age that counts, it what you experience. I'm going to try and experience as much of the world as I can. I'm going to build my own shelters and find my own food as I go. Then, after I've seen as much as this life allows me, I'll die. Then I'll wake up on Pandora. I know most people would call me crazy, and say I won't go to Pandora after I die. But I've already decided that it's where I'm going next. Not that I want this life to end. Hell no, I want to see as much of Earth as I can. But, after I die, I'm going to Pandora.

[Sempu]

For me, well Pandora already exists. I have seen it in the movie, I have dreamed up pictures of it. It is inside my mind, the only place that truly matters. I already have decided that I am going there. First I'm going to live this life trying to explore as much of the world as possible. Yeah, some might say that trying to find my own food, and build my own shelter is risky. Yeah, I know I won't live as long doing it. Hell, I might barely make it to 40 doing what I wanna do.

You don't know that, my friend; you can't. I suspect you may make it much longer than you would otherwise. Not that you phrased this as a negative, but why limit yourself in any way unnecessarily.

[skrippi]

theorist: i think you know what i mean when posting this.
for me pandora exists too and i want to go there. maybe in the next years when we could get away from earth to other planets. but if not i will go to pandora 100% after i will die. i have decided this and god must respect this. i live my life here and then i need an other place.
and pandora is that beautiful i cant realize it really. i don't need my computer or a TV or a car. you see it's that easy to live! you can fly on banshees and so on.

THIS IS MY LIFE! nobody could ever change my mind cause' i know that pandora is out there like in the movie!

[Theorist]

You don't know that, my friend; you can't. I suspect you may make it much longer than you would otherwise. Not that you phrased this as a negative, but why limit yourself in any way unnecessarily.

I'm not sure what you mean by "limiting myself."

I consider being able to travel the world and see all of nature something great. I do not think it would be so bad to die at 40 after having seen the world, instead of dieing at 80 after having worked for 40 years, and seeing only a small part of the world through retirement vacations.

[Sempu]

I'm not sure what you mean by "limiting myself."

I consider being able to travel the world and see all of nature something great. I do not think it would be so bad to die at 40 after having seen the world, instead of dieing at 80 after having worked for 40 years, and seeing only a small part of the world through retirement vacations.

I mean how about the third alternative of seeing the world and still not dying at 40? Doing what you love and living on the edge doesn't have to be a death sentence.

[Dreaming Of Pandora]

Here's a comforting video for whoever believes that Pandora must exist due to the sheer size of the Universe.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0lxbzgwW7I

[skrippi]

ha!

This is universe! And it's really, really big!

I never thought that there are 120 billion galaxys but this means that MY pandora is out there to 99%!
Oh yes, to hope that it is out there is good enough and i agree with Theorist to 100% because he is right. It would be ok to die with 40. So you don't need to do silly work. The whole life on earth is just crap:
be born, work, work, work, work, work, (love), work, work..... DIE
nothing else! haha pandora life is real life guys!

I love ya! Thx for talking with me;)

[Jake's Mango]

I believe that Pandora is out there, is would be kinda silly when humans are the only life in universe, why just look at our planet, war, cutting down rain forest, oil in the sea. We are slaves of our society, that's our life, the Na'vi have a real life and I would do many things to be part of them on that beatiful natural planet.

[skrippi]

oh thats right man! thats what i wanted to say the whole time! im not the only one who knows that MY pandora is out there

[Dreaming Of Pandora]

It's just too unlikely that Pandora cant exist. Even if Pandora was a one-in-a-trillion occurrence, then there should be millions of moons just like Pandora and at least 100'000 of those inhabited by a race just like the Na'vi. Punch the numbers into Drake's equation (which is a very rough estimate) and you get that number.

[Tsyal Makto]

I mean how about the third alternative of seeing the world and still not dying at 40? Doing what you love and living on the edge doesn't have to be a death sentence.

That's the option I would take. It would give me more time to view even more of the world, and maybe beyond.:ntongue: *crosses fingers for cheap commercial space travel* Though, I refuse to live a fear-driven, sheltered life, simply to extend it, like most people today do. If I have to shave a few off my life, so that I can live life to the fullest, then so be it. :nwink:

Oh, and I believe that I will be going to Pandora in the next life, too. I believe in an afterlife, one where everyone goes to their own personal paradise, and are with people who share a similar view of paradise. :nsmile:

[Theorist]

I mean how about the third alternative of seeing the world and still not dying at 40? Doing what you love and living on the edge doesn't have to be a death sentence.

Well, I'm not going to kill myself when I hit 40. Neither am I going to do anything incredibly stupid. I'll try to live as long as I can (unless I become completely weak and disabled).
I'm just trying to be realistic. If it takes me 8 years to travel the planet, and I feel like I've accomplished "seeing the earth", then I may settle down. Who knows too, I may meet someone on the journey.
But, I'm just looking at the possibility that I could die young on this journey, because it will take a physical toll on my body, and there's possibilities of something going wrong. I'm going to try and avoid those mistakes, but I can't guarantee I will.